Ну чтобы не бояться не быть полезным - November 11th, 2008

November 11th, 2008

November 11th, 2008
06:07 pm

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GIMP alternatives
What alternatives to the Gimp are there out there which I could consider using? (I.e., free.)

The Gimp is too heavy and too badly organized. (Although, I beleive, it's quite powerful.)

What I want is simple editing (selecting, cropping, perhaps, playing with colors, superimposing of text, what else?..) and opening/storing all possible reasonable formats.

As I looked at http://sisyphus.ru/packages/Graphics , I selected a few that seem to be image editors and which I should give a try therefore:

ImageMagick
GraphicsMagick -- I have some idea of these two (although not sure about the convenience of editing), so I'll test them last (because I want to learn smth new).
cinepaint -- No, it's just a Gimp for films; I initially selected it because of imprecise summary.
fim -- N/A in the ALT 4.1 branch.
fotoxx -- N/A in 4.1, but fotox is available. Fine, it fits my purposes, I'm satisfied with it!
skencil -- Probably no, because it's probably vector.
tgif -- No, it's for drawing and is not for JPEGs.
tint -- No, it does smth different.
tuxpaint! -- I've heard this name, I should try this simplistic (I assume) thing first! -- No, not convenient for JPEGs, http://lj.rossia.org/users/imz/2269.html .
xpaint -- must be even more simplistic! But I doubt it can treat all the different image formats. -- No, bad, http://lj.rossia.org/users/imz/1909.html .

(Some other interesting programs I saw while reading the list:
imgdiff
perceptualdiff
.)

(Yes, it's obvious, the "Graphics" group of packages in ALTLinux should be split into several more specialized ones. Now it's impossible to find something useful in the list. At least, there should be the subgroups: Graphics/Raster editors, Graphics/Vector editors, Graphics/Viewers, Graphics/Collections of images (design, wallpapers and other collections). -- https://bugzilla.altlinux.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17852)

Upd. Funny! The old good gthumb is good enough fo my purposes (I was able to crop a photo in it).

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07:14 pm

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xpaint is too simplistic :(
(Re: http://lj.rossia.org/users/imz/1754.html .)
$ xpaint ~/data/IN/unique/for-mama/20081111.jpg
XPaint uses the native display format for storing image info while editing; 
the original image information is thrown away.  This means that, in general, 
color information is irretrievably lost when using any display depth less 
than 24 bits. 

More specifically, for depths less than 8 bits, both 24-bit (true-color) and 
8-bit (palette) images will be reduced to the display depth; for 8-bit 
displays, standard color-mapped images are safe but 12-bit color-mapped and 
24-bit true-color images will lose color information; for 15- and 16-bit 
displays (typically RGB 555 and 565, respectively), in general both 8-bit 
and 24-bit images will suffer data loss; and for 24- or 32-bit displays, 
only very deep images such as 16-bit grayscale or 48-bit true-color will 
lose data. 

Also note that any ancillary information associated with the original image 
(embedded comments, time stamp, copyright, etc.) will always be lost. 



Your canvas depth is 16 bits.

     ================================================================
     WARNING!  Most color-mapped (palette) and true-color images will
     lose information irreversibly!
     ================================================================


So, I can't use it for real editing of images.

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09:45 pm

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tuxpaint might be not good for saving photos
(Re: http://lj.rossia.org/users/imz/1754.html .)

Probably, tuxpaint doesn't support saving to JPEG, so this makes tuxpaint not very convenient for my purposes (cropping photos):

$ man tuxpaint-import | cat
TUXPAINT-IMPORT(1)             Tux Paint Import             TUXPAINT-IMPORT(1)



NAME
       tuxpaint-import -- Import image files into Tux Paint(1)


SYNOPSYS
       tuxpaint-import [--help]

       tuxpaint-import filename(s)


DESCRIPTION
       tuxpaint-import  is  a  simple  shell  script  which  uses  some NetPBM
       (pnm(5)) tools (anytopnm, pnmscale and pnmtopng) along with date(1)  to
       convert an arbitrary image file (e.g., a JPEG, GIF, etc.) into a PNG(5)
       file which can be used by the drawing program Tux  Paint  (tuxpaint(1))


(But I haven't yet checked it out, because it crashes for now -- https://bugzilla.altlinux.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17856 .)

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