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Mon, 14 Mar 2022 18:33:21 GMT

Black Dice Interviews Genesis P-Orridge About Four Decades of Fearless Art and Music

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https://www.self-titledmag.com/genesis-p-orridge-interview-black-dice-feature/ -- наверное уже сто раз постили тут, но все равно хорошее ^__^

Дженезис-Пи-Орридж общается с группой Black Dice и при этом пропагандирует алхимизм:

Well, we visualize alchemy. Burroughs talked to me about that too. In the Middle Ages, the alchemist was the person who had the most radical equipment – glass test tubes, little flames, mercury, and other elements. If you were going to be an alchemist now, it should include a Walkman, or a Holophonic recorder, or whatever is the most cutting-edge equipment. Alchemy is an ongoing organic process that’s at the edge of technology – pushing, breaking and reassembling it so that it changes physical and mental responses to something.

That’s what we were talking about, like turning six Walkmen into a keyboard and seeing what happens when you have random sounds from 12 places happening simultaneously. What does it do to the brain? Does the brain re-sift them and listen one at a time? Or is it overloaded, and then if it’s overloaded, which message goes in – my vocal, the guitar, or what?

также Джен пропагандирует, впрочем, вполне предсказуемо, трансгендеризм-герамофродитизм:

Genesis: No, no — God, Adam, and Eve. All the original paintings that we know of of the Garden of Eden depict God, Adam, and Eve as hermaphrodites. Quite literally. And they were around around the time of the Holy Roman Empire destroying the Cathars, the heretics in the South of France, because they knew about the Virgin Mary being there. And the witches, because they knew all about pagan knowledge and medicine and so on, they were also destroying all the paintings. It was a coup. The Roman Catholic Church did a European coup which was very successful…. The divine state has to be both. It can’t be binary; it has to be unity.

Alan: There was also this exhibition I went to of Byzantine art. here were all these portraits of Jesus, and he was always black. You see some slightly later portraits after the west had infiltrated, and all of sudden it was this white guy with long hair and a beard. But the early depictions of him are not that at all.

Genesis: Like a dark skinned Arab.

Alan: Exactly. Which makes more sense considering where the whole story takes place.

Genesis: Of course. Now the Catholic Church, if you really look, make Jesus look like a tranny, very feminized. Very feminized.

Bjorn: That’s a popular look though. I feel like most women on TV, like Desperate Housewives, they all look like that. [Laughter]

Genesis: You only have to look in the back of the Village Voice. Seventy-percent of the sex service is now with she-males…. There’s been this really deep shift of heterosexual men who have been cheating on their wives by going to these she-males. That’s a huge ratio of supposedly straight men. What does this mean? We don’t know, but it’s interesting. We tend to think it reinforces our argument about evolutionary trajectory to the hermaphrodite.

Genesis: It’s a symbolic evolution towards inclusiveness, as opposed to separation. To us, that’s what it really represents. The reappraisal of the way society works, and the role that people have in the way they’re split male/female, good/bad, black/white, etc. But that’s actually becoming damaging to us in terms of our future.

и признается что в университетские годы не любил Incredible String Band, потому что ее слушали странные нерды, но потом внезапно понял (как по мне: неудивительно, ISB это самая mdma-шная группа которая записывалась до популяризации экстази вообще, они потом еще христианами стали)

Genesis: Oh, you’ll find all of those round the corner [laughs]. Also we loved the Incredible String Band.

Bjorn: I didn’t keep any of my Incredible String Band records….

Eric: 5000 Layers of the Onion.

Genesis: That’s not the best one, though.

Eric: That’s the one I got most into, although I like Hangman’s Beautiful Daughter.

Genesis: We like the way they do this basically acoustic music and do these long, strange, complicated songs. But then all of a sudden they’re singing about being an amoeba, or a butterfly or whatever. They’ll just twitch and change.

Eric: Did you ever see them when you were still in England?

Genesis: Oh yeah, cause some of the Exploding Galaxy joined them as the Stone Monkey.

Bjorn: It could sound sort of affected sometimes, to someone who was listening to it 30 years after it was recorded, like listening to “Pictures of Matchstick Men.”

Genesis: Oh, but I like that too.

Bjorn: It’s a good jam, but when you hear compared to other stuff it sounds like a really formulaic version of what a psych song is, flange the shit out of the vocal.

Genesis: Yeah, but the Incredible String Band was something that took me ages to get into. The people who liked it at university were people that we didn’t like. [Laughter] It was sort of nerdy, almost.

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