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AnandTech's Journal [Most Recent Entries] [Calendar View] Wednesday, August 30th, 2017
While the Ryzen 7 1800X is fun, it is actually the lower ranked Ryzen 7 parts that are better for performance per dollar. The Ryzen 7 1700 has a slight performance deficit to the 1800X, by virtue of being 3.0G/3.7G rather than 3.6G/4.0G, but it comes in at only two-thirds of the price. At $329, and coming it at 90% of the overall performance of the 1800X, the 1700 is a better choice for workstation users that still look to save a few pennies. Memory WorkstationOne of the downsides of the Ryzen 7 CPUs is that they only have dual channel memory controllers. At two modules per channel, that lends them to 64GB for maximum DRAM capacity. Sometimes a workstation needs so much more, and that is where the only direction to turn is Intel, but there will be a platform premium on CPU and motherboard as a result. Intel has a few options, and users willing to trawl through the second-hand market can find some HEDT bargains, but for users buying new there are a couple of options. First up is the Core i7-6800K, which is Intel's low-end HEDT part from the latest launch. This is a six-core processor on Intel's Broadwell microarchitecture, with 28 PCIe 3.0 lanes, but will run up to 128GB of un-buffered memory. It runs at the same price as AMD's Ryzen 7 1800X, but in exchange for two cores the user gets double the memory capacity and a few more PCIe lanes. It is worth noting that the cheapest platform cost for this CPU, the X99 platform, will also be higher than the cheapest AMD variant. Consequently, if you want 1800X performance but still need more than 64GB of DRAM or more than 16 PCIe lanes, then Intel's i7-6900K is your option. It has an MSRP of $1049, although at the right moment it might be on sale for just under $1000. This 140W TDP part will require a decent cooler, as well as an X99 platform underneath it. For a workstation user that needs it all, the Core i7-6900K will be overly sufficient, unless you try and find something like the Core i7-5960X (the previous generation 8-core CPU) on sale. One to WatchI'll be honest, the initial plan was to launch this Q1 list last week. I'm in a little bit of trouble for delaying, but I think it was worth it as we can now talk about AMD's latest announcement on Ryzen 5. The Ryzen 5 processors are quad-core and hexa-core parts using AMD's latest Zen microarchitecture, and are available at prices such that where Intel offers four cores and four threads, AMD can offer six cores and twelve threads. This 3x difference is somewhat neutered by Intel's Kaby Lake having better single core performance, but overall the Ryzen 5 CPUs are predicted to make a splash on the scene. Here is our graph of predicted performance per dollar for these CPUs: For this chart, we can basically draw a straight line from the Ryzen 7 1800X to the Ryzen 5 1500X, which covers five of AMD's new CPUs. The major outlier is the AMD Ryzen 5 1600X, which sits way above this line. We're desperately waiting to get hold of one, to see if it can live up to predictions. We'll see where the data takes us for final conclusions, but this processor is definitely on our one-to-watch list. The Ryzen 5 family will be available from April 11th.
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ASUS Unveils ROG Chimera Gaming Notebook: 17.3-inch FHD at 144 Hz with G-Sync This year at IFA there is a lot of laptop and notebook announcements. Most of them will be geared towards Intel’s new 8th Generation notebook processors that were announced last week, but there is still plenty of room for large and beefy gaming machines to take to the stage. In this category comes the ASUS ROG Chimera, a new laptop geared towards ‘twitch’ gamers that specialize in games that reward quick reactions. Underpinning the laptop is going to be the display. For ‘twitch’ gaming, resolution and quality are arguably less important than smooth and quick gameplay, so the ROG Chimera comes in with a 144 Hz display combined with G-Sync variable refresh rate compatibility. The display is only a 1920x1080 resolution in a 17.3-inch form factor, which is moving away from the trend of higher resolution screens coming to laptops. Some might point to standalone monitors that can have higher resolutions than this, although finding one in a 17.3-inch form factor is going to be difficult. We suspect that this is a TN panel – when we get around to ASUS’s booth later in the show we’ll take a look. Other hardware in the system comes via Intel’s Core i7-7820HK, the quad core mobile part that allows overclocking (ASUS states up to 4.3 GHz), and a GTX 1080 8GB mobile graphics module with a maximum boost of 1974 MHz. The keyboard incorporates a full keypad, and from what we can see a number of USB ports and video outputs. At this point ASUS is being cagy at the rest of the specifications, barring support for Xbox Wireless, so we’ll update this post when we get something more or some hands on time. Pricing and launch were not discussed. Main image from Andrew Freedman, Laptop Mag Related Reading12:01p |
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Alienware Announces AW3418DW and AW3418HW Ultra-Wide Curved Displays Among their many IFA announcements this week, Dell’s Alienware group has introduced two ultra-large displays aimed at gamers. The monitors measure 34” in diagonal and feature refresh rates of over 100 Hz. In accordance with the recent industrial trends, the monitors feature NVIDIA’s G-Sync dynamic refresh rate technology, AlienFX RGB lighting, and thin bezels. The Alienware AW3418DW will be the company’s new flagship IPS-based display boasting with a 3440×1440 resolution, a 120 Hz refresh rate (when overclocked), a 4 ms GtG response time, a 1900R curvature, 178°/178° vertical/horizontal viewing angles and NVIDIA’s G-Sync technology. When it comes to brightness, contrast and color accuracy, we are dealing with rather typical specifications for this class of monitors — 300 nits brightness, a 1000:1 contrast ratio and 99% of the sRGB coverage. As for connectivity, the display has one DisplayPort 1.2 and one HDMI 1.4 input, a quad-port USB 3.0 hub (with one upstream port) as well as 3.5-mm audio connectors. The Alienware AW3418DW is available immediately and carries a $1,499 price tag. From outer design point of view, the Alienware AW3418HW haa a lot of similarities with the more advanced AW3418DW: it has the same diagonal size, AlienFX RGB lighting, cable management, a die cast metal stand and so on. Under the hood however, the lower cost 34” curved display is completely different from its more advanced brother. The AW3418HW has a 2560×1080 resolution, a 160 Hz refresh rate (when overclocked) with G-Sync treatment, a 4 ms response time and a 3800R curvature. Given a lower resolution, the AW3418HW will be significantly cheaper than the AW3418DW — it is going to cost $1,199 when it becomes available later this holiday season.
The new ultra-wide 34” monitors from Alienware will complement the company’s 25” display it announced earlier this year. As it appears, the company sees demand for screens designed specifically for gaming, which is why it is expanding the lineup. It is evident that when designing its displays Alienware focuses primarily on features important for gamers: maximum refresh rate with dynamic refresh support, curvature, but not high resolution per se. Such approach makes a great sense because not every gamer has a graphics card that has enough processing horsepower to run the latest games in a 4K resolution (or similar) at 120 – 160 Hz, which is why the monitors like AW3418DW and AW3418HW have all chances to become popular among those who spend a lot of time playing games. Related Reading: 8:00p |
ASUS Announces ZenBook Flip 14 and Flip 15 Continuing our coverage of IFA 2017, ASUS has announced the release of two new 2-in-1s. First, the Zenbook Flip 14; ASUS touts this to be the worlds thinnest 2-in-1 laptop. And the Zenbook Flip 15, said to be the most powerful Zenbook Flip ever using the latest 8th Generation Intel Core processors. Shawn Yen, ASUS’ Senior Product Director said on stage at IFA, “the major objective of this product is bringing the benefits and versatility of a 2-in-1, with the mobility of an ultrathin. Marry those two benefits together and empower user’s needs for graphics." And in comes the latest generation Zenbook Flips. Asus Zenbook Flip 14The Zenbook Flip 14 UX461 is very thin and light for a convertible laptop measuring just 13.9mm(.55") thick and weighing 1.4 kg (3.1 lbs). The 8th generation CPU is a Core i7-8550U 4C/8T chip with a base processor frequency of 1.8GHz and a maximum turbo frequency of 4GHz. The Flip 14 can be configured with up to 16GB 2400 MHz DDR4 RAM and 1TB PCIe SSD for fast storage. It also includes a fingerprint reader and speakers tuned by Harmon Kardon. Additionally, the Flip 14 includes a discrete GPU, the NVIDIA MX150, which helps with graphically intensive tasks an onboard graphics solution may find problematic. Even with more powerful hardware inside, battery life is said to be up to 13 hours. The chassis styling has changed a bit going away from the brushed aluminum look and going with more of a medium gloss flat finish instead. The Flip 14 has two color options in Icicle Gold and Slate Grey (pictured above). ASUS’ NanoEdge technology makes its way to the 14-inch 1080p display making it very thin. The result is a 13-inch footprint from a 14-inch laptop. The Flip 14 will start at 799€ (~$900) and ASUS has not provided dates for availability. Gallery: ASUS ZenBook Flip 14
Asus Zenbook Flip 15The ZenBook Flip 15 UX561 is a 15.6” 2-in-1 following similar themes to the 14, but instead is designed to be a larger, high performance laptop. The nod here goes to its use of the same i7-8550U 4C/8T 1.8GHz-4GHz processor and NVIDIA's GeForce GTX 1050 graphics. Asus mentions it can be up to two times faster (Cinebench R15) than the previous generation UX560 which used an i7-6500U (dual-core with hyperthreading) from a previous generation. The GTX 1050 is a decent upgrade on the performance side and saves power over the GTX 950 used before. The Flip 15 can be configured with up to a 512GB SSD, a 2TB hard drive, and 16GB 2400 MHz DDR4 RAM. It also has precision stylus support, as well as Thunderbolt 3 ports for advanced peripheral attachment. The new 2-in-1 uses NanoEdge bezels and offers an optional 4K UHD resolution screen. There are also two color options here, Smoke Grey(pictured) and Pure Silver. The ZenBook Flip15 starts at 899€(~$1000), and like the Flip 14, we're still waiting on hear on when precisely it will hit the market. Gallery: ASUS ZenBook Flip 15
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