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Пишет Misha Verbitsky ([info]tiphareth)
@ 2009-12-24 15:22:00


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The Authoritarians
Кстати, вот
http://home.cc.umanitoba.ca/~altemey/
Книжка Боба Альтемейера, того самого социолога,
который придумал психологические тесты для
научного определения быдла. Ныне выложена
в сеть, целиком, и ебать все копирайты.

Главная книга, если кто-то хочет понять,
что происходит в американской политике последние
30 лет (и в российской - последние 10).

См. также в Википедии, "Right-Wing
Authoritarianism"
.

По-русски, "правый авторитаризм" (он же "консерватизм")
вполне адекватно переводится как "быдло".

По ссылке
от [info]syn_devnullorg.

Привет



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ознакомтесь что ваши соотечественники наделали
[info]xyu.livejournal.com
2009-12-24 22:24 (ссылка)
First World War (1914-18),

Russia(Імперія включно з Україною):

1,700,000 (everyone, Paschall); 1,800,000 (The World War I Databook:E&C); 1,811,000 (Urlanis); 2,950,000 (Eckhardt)

Civilian casualty estimates

Urlanis: Russia: 1,500,000

Tucker: Russia: 2,000,000

Eckhardt: Russia: 3,000,000

John Ellis
& Michael Cox,
The World War I Databook:

Russia: 2,000,000



Russian Civil War (1917-22):


# Eckhardt: 500,000 civ. + 300,000 mil. = 800,000

# Readers Companion to Military History, Cowley and Parker, eds. (1996) :

* Combat deaths: 825,000
* Ancillary deaths: 2,000,000
* TOTAL: 2,825,000

# Davies, Norman (Europe A History, 1998)

* Civil War and Volga Famine (1918-22): 3,000,000 to 5,000,000

# Brzezinski, Z:

* 6 to 8 million people died under Lenin from war, famine etc.

# Mastering Twentieth Century Russian History by Norman Lowe (2002)

* TOTAL: 7,000,000 to 10,000,000
* Red Army
o Battle: 632,000
o Disease: 581,000
* Whites: 1,290,000 battle + disease
* White Terror: "tens of thousands"
* Red Terror
o Executed: 50-200,000
o Died in prison or killed in revolts: 400,000
* Typhoid + typhus
o 1919: 890,000
o 1920: >1M

# Urlanis:

* Military deaths: 800,000
o Battle deaths, all sides: 300,000
o Dead of wounds: 50,000
o Disease: 450,000
* Civilians: 8,000,000
* TOTAL: 8,800,000

# Dyadkin, I.G. (cited in Adler, N., Victims of Soviet Terror, 1993)

* 9 million unnatural deaths from terror, famine and disease, 1918-23

# Richard Pipes, A concise history of the Russian Revolution (1995): 9 million deaths, 1917-1922

* Famine: 5M
* Combat: 2M
o Reds: 1M
o Whites: 127,000
* Epidemics: 2M
* not incl.
o Emigration: 2M
o Birth deficit: 14M

# rummel:

* Civil War (1917-22)
o War: 1,410,000 (includes 500,000 civilian)
o Famine: 5,000,000 (50% democidal)
o Other democide: 784,000
o Epidemics: 2,300,000
o Total: 9,494,000
* Lenin's Regime (1917-24)
o rummel blames Lenin for a lifetime total of 4,017,000 democides.

# Figes, Orlando (A People's Tragedy: A History of the Russian Revolution, 1997)

* 10 million deaths from war, terror, famine and disease.
o Including...
+ Famine (1921-22): 5 million
+ Killed in fighting, both military and civilian: 1M
+ Jews killed in pogroms: 150,000
o Not including...
+ Demographic effects of a hugely reduced birth-rate:
10 M
+ Emmigration: 2M

# McEvedy, Colin (Atlas of World Population History, 1978)

* War deaths: 2M
* Other excess deaths: 14M
* Reduced births: 10M
* Emmigration: 2M


ДОДАТКОВІ ОКРЕМІ ЦИФРИ:


# Bruce Lincoln, Red Victory: a History of the Russian Civil War 1918-1921

* Death sentences by the Cheka: ca. 100,000
* Pogroms: as many as one in 13 Jews k. out of 1.5M in Ukraine [i.e. ca. 115,000] (citing Heifetz)

# Nevins, citing Heifetz and the Red Cross: 120,000 Jews killed in 1919 pogroms
# Richard Overy, Russia's War (1997): Cheka responsible for maybe 250,000+ violent deaths.
# Paul Johnson

* 50,000 death sentences imposed by the Cheka by 12/20
* 100,000 Jews killed in 1919

# Green, Barbara (in Rosenbaum, Is the Holocaust Unique?)

* 4 to 5 million deaths in the famine of 1921-23

# Max Boot, The Savage Wars of Peace

* North Russia: 244 USAns d. incl. 144 k.battle
* Siberia: 160 USAns KIA + 168 other d.
* [US Total: 304 KIA + 268 other = 572 d.]
* Czech Legion: 13,000 dead.





Soviet Union, Stalin's regime (1924-53):

# Adler, N., Victims of Soviet Terror, 1993 cites these:

* Chistyakovoy, V. (Neva, no.10): 20 million killed during the 1930s.
* Dyadkin, I.G. (Demograficheskaya statistika neyestestvennoy smertnosti v SSSR 1918-1956 ): 56 to 62 million "unnatural deaths" for the USSR overall, with 34 to 49 million under Stalin.
* Gold, John.: 50-60 million.

# Davies, Norman (Europe A History, 1998): c. 50 million killed 1924-53, excluding WW2 war losses. This would divide (more or less) into 33M pre-war and 17M after 1939.
# rummel, 1990: 61,911,000 democides in the USSR 1917-87, of which 51,755,000 occurred during the Stalin years. This divides up into:

* 1923-29: 2,200,000 (plus 1M non-democidal famine deaths)
* 1929-39: 15,785,000 (plus 2M non-democidal famine)
* 1939-45: 18,157,000
* 1946-54: 15,613,000 (plus 333,000 non-democidal famine)
* TOTAL: 51,755,000 democides and 3,333,000 non-demo. famine

# William Cockerham, Health and Social Change in Russia and Eastern Europe: 50M+
# Wallechinsky: 13M (1930-32) + 7M (1934-38)

* Cited by Wallechinsky:
o Medvedev, Roy (Let History Judge): 40 million.
o Solzhenitsyn, Aleksandr: 60 million.

In The Great Terror (1969), Robert Conquest suggested that the overall death toll was

20 million at minimum -- and very likely 50% higher, or 30 million.

This would divide roughly as follows:

7M in 1930-36; 3M in 1937-38; 10M in 1939-53.


Daniel Chirot:

* "Lowest credible" estimate: 20M
* "Highest": 40M
* Citing:
o Conquest: 20M
o Antonov-Ovseyenko: 30M
o Medvedev: 40M


Tina Rosenberg, The Haunted Land: Facing Europes Ghosts After Communism (1995): upwards of 25M



Famine, 1926-38

Mace: 5-7 M in Ukraine

Conquest:

* Total, USSR, 1926-37: 11M
* 1932-33: 7M

Спровокована зусиллями СССР і особисто Сталіна Друга СВітова війна:


Brzezinski:

* Military: 19M
* Civilians, "actual byproduct of hostilities": 20M
* Hitler's murders: 17M

rummel:

* European War Dead (1939-45):

# Hitler: 20,946,000

# Stalin: 13,053,000

СССР під час 2ї Світової винен в смертях:

# Deported nationalities:

* Aleksandr Nekrich, The Punished Peoples (1978): Net population losses, 1939-59, after allowance for wartime losses.
o Chechens: 590,000
o Kalmyks: 142,000
o Ingush: 128,000
o Karachai: 124,000
o Balkars: 64,000
o [TOTAL: 1,048,000]

* Kenneth Christie, Historical Injustice and Democratic Transition in Eastern Asia and Northern Europe: Ghosts at the Table of Democracy (2002)

o Lithuanian, Latvian and Estonians (1940-41): 85,000
deported, of which 55,000 killed or died
o Baltics executed during reconquest (1944-45): 30,000
o Postwar partisan war
+ Lithuanians: 40-50,000 k.
+ Latvian: 25,000
+ Estonians: 15,000
o [TOTAL: 170,000 ± 5,000]
* Richard Overy, Russia's War (1997)
o citing rummel: 530,000 Chechens and other Black Sea/Caucasus minorities d.
o citing NKVD archives: 231,000 deaths, 1943-49
* Harff and Gurr:
o Chechens, Ingushi, Karachai, Balkars, Kalmyks: 230,000 d. (1943-57)
o Meskhierians, Crimean Tatars: 57,000 - 175,000 d. (1944-68)
* Davies: 1,000,000 Volga Germans, Chechens, Ingush, Crimean Tatars, etc.
* NewsHour: some 200,000 Chechens died during the exile

# Enemy POWs never returned:

* Brzezinski: 1,000,000 total d. (incl. 357,000 Germans, 140,000 Poles)
* Davies: 1,000,000 d.
* Richard Overy, Russia's War (1997): official figures released under glasnost
o Germans: 2,388,000 POWs taken, of which 356,000 died
o Hungarians, Romanians, etc.: 1,097,000 taken, of which 162,000 died
o Japanese: 600,000 taken, of which 61,855 died
o [Total: 4,085,000 taken, of which ca. 580,000 died]
* Katyn Massacre (April-May 1940):
o Dictionary of 20C World History: 14,000 Polish officers systematically killed. 4,500 bodies discovered by Germans.
o 30 July 2000 Sunday Telegraph [London]: 15,000 k.
o Paul Johnson: 15,000 -- a third at Katyn, the rest in Sov. conc. camps.
o Gilbert: 15,000 Polish POWs sent to 3 camps - Starobelsk, Kozelsk, Ostashkov - all killed. 4,400 from Kozelsk killed at Katyn.

# Returning Soviet POWs killed after the war:

* Harff and Gurr: 500,000 - 1,100,000 repatriated Soviet nationals killed (1943-47)
* Harper Collins: 1,000,000 POWs
* Davies: 5-6M deaths, screening of repatriates and inhabitants of ex-occupied territory

# Soviet soldiers executed:

* Richard Overy, Russia's War (1997)
o "latest Russian estimates put the figure as high as 158,000 sentenced to be shot."
o "442,000 were forced to serve in penal batallions." [These were assigned suicidally dangerous tasks, and the only way out was death or wounds, so figure maybe half dead, half crippled.]

# Gulag during the war years:

* Richard Overy, Russia's War (1997): 2.4M sent to Gulag; 1.9M freed. "Official figures show 621,000 deaths in the Gulag" during WW2

# Total killed by Stalin during the war years:

* Davies: 16-17,000,000 non-war-dead
* rummel: 18,157,000 democides



Russo-Finnish War (1939-1940):

* COWP
o USSR: 50,000
o Finland: 24,900
o TOTAL: 74,900
* Gilbert
o USSR: 58,000
o Finland: 27,000
o TOTAL: 85,000
* Singer
o USSR: 50,000
o Finland: 40,000
o TOTAL: 90,000
* Eckhardt: 90,000
* Roger Reese, The Soviet Military Experience : A History of the Soviet Army, 1917-1991
o Red Army: 126,875 killed and missing
* Clodfelter
o Finland: 23,157 KIA
o USSR
+ according to Molotov: 48,745 KIA
+ most others give 175-200,000
o [TOTAL: ca. 200,000-225,000]
* Eloise Engle, The Winter War: The Soviet Attack on Finland 1939-1940
o Finland: 25,000
o Soviets: one million killed, according to Khrushchev


Russo-Polish War (1918-1920):
* Singer
o USSR: 60,000
o Poland: 40,000
o TOTAL: 100,000
* Eckhardt: 100,000
* Urlanis calculates 37,000 Poles KIA, and cites...
o Polish official commission:
+ killed: 17,278 (Urlanis: "underestimation")
+ dead: 30,337
+ missing: 51,374

Russia (1994 et seq.)

* War in Chechnya, 1994-96
o 16 May 2001 AP: Russian soldiers: 3,826 kia + 1,906 mia in 21 mos.
o Amnesty International: 20-30,000 ("Russian Federation: Brief summary of concerns about human rights violations in the Chechen Republic" (April 1996)
+ cited by Amnesty International: Russian Presidential Commission for Human Rights: 27,000
o Global Security: "1,500 Russian troops and 25,000 civilians had died by April 1995"
o SIPRI 1997: 10,000-40,000 (1994-96)
o War Annual 8 (1997): 40,000
o CDI: 50,000 (1994-96)
o Dictionary of 20C World History: 80,000
o Ploughshares 2000: 80-100,000
o 6 Dec. 1999 Time: 4,000 Russian soldiers + 100,000 Chechens, 1994-96
* Renewed fighting, 1999
o 6 Dec. 1999 Time: 4,000
o Ploughshares 2000: >5,000
o 16 May 2001 AP: 3,096 Russian soldiers in 20 mos.
* Both Wars:
o 11 Nov. 2002 Time: 38,000 combatants + 200,000 civilians
o 11 Nov. 2002 Newsweek: 100,000 civilians


Russian Revolution (1917)

* Eckhardt: 1,000 civ. + 1,000 military = 2,000




Sino-Soviet War (1929)

Eckhardt: 3,000 military

Decommuniziation: тут неясно чи це по Росії чи по ссср

* Jerry Hough, LA Times 18 August 1998 Op-Ed: With the collapse of communism in Russia, poverty and death rates soared, and some 3 million people in Russia died who would have been alive if the old life expectancy rates had been maintained.
* The Times (London) 27 Jan. 2000: The Russian population is roughly six million lower than if birth and death rates had stayed constant since the fall of communism.
* 28 Dec. 1994 Plain Dealer: 360,000 more Russians died in 1993 than in 1992.
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Це окремі цифри з збірки
http://users.erols.com/mwhite28/warstat1.htm

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Re: ознакомтесь что ваши соотечественники наделали
[info]rafail.livejournal.com
2009-12-25 04:57 (ссылка)
Ого, что это за ёбаный пиздец?

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[info]mancunian.livejournal.com
2009-12-25 05:24 (ссылка)
У чувака крыша едет в прямом эфире, по-моему. Сейчас встанет на четвереньки и залает, чувствую.

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[info]rafail.livejournal.com
2009-12-25 06:10 (ссылка)
да не, я просто заебался колесико на мышке крутить

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[info]xyu.livejournal.com
2009-12-25 21:08 (ссылка)
подложи корявку под трамвай- крутить больше не прийдется никогда

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поц, ты слово История знаеш
[info]xyu.livejournal.com
2009-12-25 21:07 (ссылка)
протри залитые сцаками оченята и почитай что там написано

ты тоже наверное сынок стукача, признайся, ты пидар ?

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это твоя история
[info]xyu.livejournal.com
2009-12-25 06:50 (ссылка)
это твой ссср

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