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Пишет Misha Verbitsky ([info]tiphareth)
@ 2019-03-11 07:51:00


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2018-10-18 00:40 (ссылка)
>50% alumni чистых WASP

Информация сильно устаревшая. В 2017ом белых в Гарварде зачислили уже меньше 50%, и среди этих белых в районе половины евреев. Так что WASPы (и вообще все белые неевреи) в Гарварде это underrepresented minority. Legacy зачислили тоже сильно меньше половины -- 1/3 в 17ом году.

https://hillel.org/college-guide/list/record/harvard-university (11%) Jewish Undergrads

Плохо понимаю зачем у них 15% негров зачислено. Это больше их доли в популяции США -- они overrepresented. Очень любят негров.

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[info]kaledin
2018-10-18 04:46 (ссылка)
Я забыл точную цифру, которую мне озвучивали. М.б. 40, а не 50.

Конечно, это да, было давно, но я бы удивился, если бы оно поменялось (скорее они будут брать китайцев вместо евреев).

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2018-10-18 08:36 (ссылка)
"In fact, Harvard reported that 45.0 percent of its undergraduates in 2011 were white Americans, but since Jews were 25 percent of the student body, the enrollment of non-Jewish whites might have been as low as 20 percent, though the true figure was probably somewhat higher.[51] The Jewish levels for Yale and Columbia were also around 25 percent, while white Gentiles were 22 percent at the former and just 15 percent at the latter. The remainder of the Ivy League followed this same general pattern.

This overrepresentation of Jews is really quite extraordinary, since the group currently constitutes just 2.1 percent of the general population and about 1.8 percent of college-age Americans.[52] Thus, although Asian-American high school graduates each year outnumber their Jewish classmates nearly three-to-one, American Jews are far more numerous at Harvard and throughout the Ivy League. Both groups are highly urbanized, generally affluent, and geographically concentrated within a few states, so the “diversity” factors considered above would hardly seem to apply; yet Jews seem to fare much better at the admissions office."

"Let me cite an example from my original article which underscores the credibility of the Hillel figures in elite circles. During 1999 it was discovered that Hillel’s estimate of the percentage of Jews enrolled at Princeton had dropped from 16% to about 10% over the previous 15 years, and this resulted in a huge national media firestorm, with articles appearing in the NYT, The Chronicle of Higher Education, The New York Observer, as well as four front-page stories in the Daily Princetonian, all with mention of anti-Semitism bandied about. Princeton’s administration profusely apologized for the decline in Jewish numbers and agreed to completely overhaul its admissions policy as a consequence. At that point in time Princeton’s president was Jewish, Princeton’s provost was Jewish, and Princeton had just finished building a multi-million-dollar Jewish activities center on campus; but Hillel’s report of a substantial decline in Jewish enrollment was regarded as near-prima facie proof of anti-Jewish bias at the university, especially since the figure was much lower than the figures reported by Hillel for Harvard, Yale, and Columbia."

Короче раньше Hilel показывал более значительные числа (20-25%), но после того как их данные начали цитировать те кто утверждает что "jews are overrepresented", они решили скрутить счетчкик. Или евреев в Гарварде за 10 лет стало в два раза меньше, что маловероятно.

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