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Пишет Misha Verbitsky ([info]tiphareth)
for the record, скину сюда весь жир из реддита,
что-то мне говорит, что они его скоро потрут

Original Post:

This happened last week, he's only 11. At around 10AM my son was taken out of class by the schools resource officer and lead to the main office where 4 other officers were waiting for him.

They then patted him down, and took him (not handcuffed) to the police station and began looking though his phone, emails, messages, everything. The biggest issue is NO ONE CALLED US. Not the school, not the police no one. We got a text from a friend of his who had our number asking us if he was still coming over after school since he left class early and had not come back yet (this was at 1PM).

We called the school who only told us to call the police department as this wasn't a school issue anymore. We start freaking out wondering where our son is or what happened to him, my husband who's more level headed just tracked his iPhone and seen where he was and we headed there.

We got there at maybe 1:15PM and were completely stonewalled. No one told us anything except he's being investigated for a planned school shooting. Which is just insane, he doesn't do anything crazy and talks to us pretty openly about everything. He spends his time at school, with friends building forts or playing Nerf guns (this is important later).

We continued to demand to see our son, and called a friend of ours who works for the state as a social worker. She wasn't able to get down there or figure anything out until about 6:30PM and finally after she started calling people did they release him at 7PM. They did not let us speak to our son or see him this entire time.

We get him home and get tells us everything, apparently him and his friend were talking about their "guns". Nerf guns, and what they were going to go hunt after school when they came back to our house for the night and dinner. They never spoke about shooting people or schools or anything, they were going to hunt "Creepers" from their Minecraft game. They painted some boxes green and what not and set them up around the yard and house and do this pretty regularly.

When they finally let him go some guy in a suit says "sorry, we received a credible report about a planned school shooting from a teacher and had to act. We've concluded he was talking about a video game with his friend and he's free to go" that's not verbatim but it's pretty much what he said.

They kept offering him McDonald's, giving him soda and candy etc if he just told them where the guns were or to draw out the plans and who was involved. They asked him if we drink, if we have any pills in our medicine cabinet we take and then sleep or "do weird things" after taking or smoking etc. They kept going through his phone and asking him "where is this picture taken" or "who was there" like wtf they questioned him for 9 hours, entirely invaded his and our privacy on the phone and didn't let us see or talk to him.

The school is refusing to talk to us at all other than they graciously said he is okay to come back to school once they finish speaking to the police, maybe. We can't get answers if he is suspended or if he can even goto school and the police department keeps telling us "the issue is closed" and hangup. What the hell do we do?

kukkelii
-61 points ·
2 days ago
· edited 1 day ago

casualglancer
-40 points ·
2 days ago
· edited 1 day ago

I'm happy to hear that the police were actively investigating. This is where we are currently. I feel bad this happened but I'd feel worse if this was a real situation and the police just ignored it. Get the child in some real therapy sessions, as no doubt he will be ostracized at school. Expect parents and students to react irrationally. This is a reminder to parents to speak with kids about not discussing violent game play in school. Good luck!

Ps. I'm sad that so many ppl disagree with me. I would love to know what I said which brought such scorn. This is how a situation like this should have been handled. Its upsetting, and I get that, but this is post Columbine,and every week another school is getting blasted by students. When presented with the aforementioned details the police took the correct steps. Change my mind!

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Pflegeduscher
-24 points ·
2 days ago

My US-History teacher who was a nerd when it came to Supreme Court ruling always told me, your constitutional rights don't apply on school premises.

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JHutchinson1324
288 points ·
2 days ago

Yep, no specifics but in high school I was pulled out to talk to DCF. Get out to the ladies car and my baby brother (middle school age) was out there just sobbing. The whole way to wherever we were going this B is antagonizing my brother and getting him to cry harder. I don't remember the first question she directed at me but I do remember my answer. ' I would like to speak to my lawyer'. Lady didn't know how to handle me and kept insisting I didn't have a right to a lawyer. Well I was 15, and stubborn, so my answer never changed and seeing me be so bold my brother began to follow suit. They got zero answers out of us in about 5/6 hours and finally let my parents take us. Just remembering how upset my baby brother was is making me angry and it's been 17 years.

sadiejenks79
307 points ·
2 days ago

Find an attorney that practices criminal and family law. The police asking your son about pills, alcohol, smoking and I’m sure a myriad of other things mean that if he said anything, anything at all suggesting that you do, will end up with DCF and family court in your business for a Child In Need of Care case. Having an attorney for that should deter them from taking it too far.

1993thra
7 points ·
2 days ago

I am an elementary school teacher and just finished my safety and active shooter training. A teacher thought what your child said was enough to contact the police over. As sad as it is, you have to teach your child what words are acceptable to use at school. When kids interact with each other they often exaggerate and a teacher may have heard something that did not paint them in a good light. The school definitely mishandled the situation by not contacting you but as a parent you have to sadly teach your child that not using certain terms at school is part of social awareness nowadays. If I was in that situation and had overheard any conversation like the one your child had, they would have been pulled aside for a one on one conversation and a conference with the parents would be scheduled at least.

To me as non american ( someone mentioned Texas in the comments ) this seems normal and im going to get downvoted to oblivion. You must understand that to the law enforcement youre son was PLANNING TO SHOOT PPL.

Sure he was held for quite sometime, but did you ever think about why? Maybe your child said something like "lets go shoot those creeps after school " or smth like that.



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