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Пишет tristes_tigres ([info]tristes_tigres)
@ 2010-01-02 04:41:00


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В Ирландии действует закон, устанавливающий уголовную ответственность за кощунство
Хм, тут, помнится, кое-кто говорил, что в Европе нету фофудьи. Сегодня в Ирландии вступил в действие закон, согласно которому кощунство является преступлением и может наказываться штрафом до 25К евро.

В ответ организация атеистов Ирландии опубликовала список 25 кощунственных высказываний различных известных персонажей, от Марка Твена до Иисуса Христа.

So, [info]oona, which is your favorite blasphemy from the list ?


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[info]oona
2010-01-02 10:26 (ссылка)
It's difficult to choose a 'favourite' blasphemy when I believe in God.

I like Mark Twain. He is one of my favourite writers. I also find the passage in the Bible wherein Jesus called himself the son of man interesting as a blasphemy considering that I believe nowhere does Jesus refer to himself as the son of God.

Ireland and the Church are both screwed up. You can read about the Catholic church in Ireland here, for instance. I do not believe in religious institutions controlling education. Don't even get me started on the Catholic church, and I am a Catholic myself who hates the Pope for having covered up decades of child abuse by priests all over the world. Now he is pope and acts surprised?

I was raised in the North, not the republic. My da unlike many men of his time, taught me to respect other people's beliefs because he said that most of the great religions of the world were all based on the same principle of behaving toward others as you would like them to act toward you and in finding meaning and direction in life through a belief system in a higher power.

My own belief is that there are many paths to enlightenment and truth. What works for one group of people may not for another.

Freedom of speech walks a fine line between having the ability to say things you want versus acting in a completely ridiculous way which infringes on the rights of others. It is a difficult issue.

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[info]tristes_tigres
2010-01-02 14:24 (ссылка)
Thank you for the interesting comment. If you think that Catholic church is screwed up, you haven't seen the Russian Orthodox church, about which the less said, the better. Although there's a member here, [info]priest_dimitriy, whom the folks here seem to find OK.

My da unlike many men of his time, taught me to respect other people's beliefs because he said that most of the great religions of the world were all based on the same principle of behaving toward others as you would like them to act toward you and in finding meaning and direction in life through a belief system in a higher power.

No ! Your dad's name was Socrates, wasn't it ? But that would make you 2,5 thousand years old !

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[info]mao
2010-01-02 22:29 (ссылка)
Hey, oona, I have a question for you. Was Jesus jewish (by nationality)?

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[info]oona
2010-01-02 23:10 (ссылка)
Well, he was a test-tube baby, so who knows? ;)

Seriously, according to Christians, his father was not Joseph, so that rules out that. I believe that his mother Mary's lineage is not given, so that rules out her. He did preach to the Jewish people in his 'hood' and observe their customs, so you might think he considered himself to be one.

What do you think?

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[info]tristes_tigres
2010-01-02 23:12 (ссылка)
Mao, give it up. Catholics do their homework

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[info]oona
2010-01-02 23:20 (ссылка)
hahaha! We have catechism classes when we're not trying to get away from the paedo priests.. :-p

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[info]tristes_tigres
2010-01-02 23:23 (ссылка)
Do you know the one about the apprentice priest who didn't know what penance to give for the oral sex ?

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[info]oona
2010-01-03 00:02 (ссылка)
uhh, no.

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[info]tristes_tigres
2010-01-03 00:05 (ссылка)
Do you sense an altar boy joke coming yet ?

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[info]oona
2010-01-03 00:31 (ссылка)
Yes, for the past half hour. Get it out of your system. :-p

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[info]tristes_tigres
2010-01-03 00:32 (ссылка)
Are you 100% sure we have to do this ? Not too late to stop. Yet.

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[info]oona
2010-01-03 00:34 (ссылка)
If you think it will make me laugh, go ahead. You know how I am. :-p

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[info]tristes_tigres
2010-01-03 00:43 (ссылка)
So there's a young priest just straight from the seminary, for the first time in the confessional booth. And this innocent sweet young wife (may be, even blond) comes in and says, "I am so ashamed, Father ! My husband insisted on it, and I had to give in and engage in oral sex ! How can I redeem myself ?"

The young priest is a bit stumped, and says, "My daughter, this is a very serious sin. I need to consult my mentor, Father Joseph. Wait for me a bit".

He goes out to look for the older priest, but can not find him anywhere. Being at a loss, he turns to the altar boy, and asks, "Do you know by any chance what Father Joseph gives for the oral sex ?" And the altar boy replies, "Usually, a glass of milk and a cookie"

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[info]oona
2010-01-03 00:45 (ссылка)
hahahaha! nice one!

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[info]tristes_tigres
2010-01-03 00:54 (ссылка)
Warned you, but you just wouldn't listen

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[info]mao
2010-01-03 00:02 (ссылка)
Well, I am a satanist myself and I think Jesus was Russian.

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[info]oona
2010-01-03 00:03 (ссылка)
What is Satan then?

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[info]mao
2010-01-03 00:15 (ссылка)
Satan is 100% Jewish.

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[info]tristes_tigres
2010-01-03 00:18 (ссылка)
You mean that he wears that silly hat and has two braids hanging over his ears ? No way, Jose.

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[info]tristes_tigres
2010-01-03 00:09 (ссылка)
No way, Mao. Recall how during the wedding in Kana of the Galilee he turned water into wine ? Surely a Russian would have made a barrel of vodka instead.

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[info]mao
2010-01-03 00:14 (ссылка)
It's a Jewish conspiracy.
I was there last week (they have a bread factory and I was making some bread) and saw that place. I'm positive that Jesus made vodka, not wine.

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[info]tristes_tigres
2010-01-03 00:34 (ссылка)
I am sure it would have been a great one, not giving any hangover, too. But the primary sources disagree with you here.

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[info]mao
2010-01-03 00:49 (ссылка)
Primary source is controlled by evil jews!!!1

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[info]tristes_tigres
2010-01-03 00:51 (ссылка)
If so, the evil jews are amazingly incompetent, seeing how much blowback the primary sources gave to them over the last two millenia

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[info]mao
2010-01-03 00:55 (ссылка)
Так. Стоп, не понимаю, давай по-славянски.
Жыды некомпетентны из-за чего?

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[info]oona
2010-01-03 04:06 (ссылка)
hahaha.

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