| О цензуре |
[Jul. 15th, 2005|11:09 am] |
Вот, кажется, полная версия переписки с Abuse Team.
Все-таки, цензура - это важная вещь. Можно ведь
просто поставить робота, который будет вымарывать
каждое третье слово, или предлоги, например, раз
в русском языке нет артиклей.
Можно, допустим, предоставить пользователям право
его выключать (хотя это хуже святотатства), но
цензурный робот обязан просто жить в каждом
уважающем себя блоговом пространстве. И анонимные
жалобы должен разбирать цензурный или жалобный робот
(демон), нельзя так вот просто их запретить. Я бы
даже попробовала написать такого демона, но боюсь
с непривычки все вам завесить. Он на письма должен
отвечать обязательно.
From abuse@livejournal.com Wed Jun 15 08:03:34 2005
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From: abuse@livejournal.com (LiveJournal Abuse Team)
To: yulya@thelema.mccme.ru
Subject: Your LiveJournal Account [51-470213]
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Dear user
It has come to our attention that you have posted
an entry which encourages violence towards a group
of people. As you were aware that the entry
in question constitutes a violation of the Terms
of Service, your account has been suspended. If
you would like to have your account unsuspended,
you will need to contact us with a date and time,
with timezone, at which you will be available.
At that time, your account will be unsuspended
to allow you to delete the entry in question
Regards
Scot
LiveJournal Abuse Team
From yulya@thelema.mccme.ru Wed Jul 13 01:44:18 2005
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Dear Scot,
I will be available tomorrow, that is July 13, starting
from 11 a. m. Moscow time. I would like my account to be
unsuspended by that time. Also will you please be so kind
as to inform me which of my entries is/are currently
believed to constitute a violation of the Terms of Service,
and which group of people exactly you had in mind.
Regards,
user.
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Below is an answer to your support question regarding "(51) aculeata re: susp"
(http://www.livejournal.com/support/see_request.bml?id=481178&).
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Dear user
Your entry, located at http://www.livejournal.com/users/aculeata/671209.html,
constitutes a violation of the Terms of Service, as it encourages
others to commit acts of violence. Your account has been unsuspended,
and you must delete this entry as soon as possible. Failure to do
so within 24 hours will result in the permanent re-suspension
of your account
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Scot
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From yulya@thelema.mccme.ru Wed Jul 13 11:12:38 2005
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Dear Scot,
thank you for your swift reply. You wrote:
>From abuse+481178zzz2k@livejournal.com Wed Jul 13 10:05:25 2005
>Your entry, located at http://www.livejournal.com/users/aculeata/671209.html,
>constitutes a violation of the Terms of Service, as it encourages others to
>commit acts of violence.
I see. Well, let me translate it for you in case
you've found this entry by a substring search
and do not have around anyone fluent in Russian.
*************************************
A large number of journals
KILL A NATO-een
has been suspended
KILL A NATO-een
seemingly as a result of the action
"KILL A NATO-een"
(etc)
*************************************
So where was it that the said call to violence was found,
in the refrain?
Will you kindly indicate a group of persons which could
possibly be moved to a violent action by this "call to
violence"? Unless, of'course, it was some misguided
member of the Abuse Team using a machine translator.
In the latter case, whom did he or she try to inflict
violence upon? I mean, what exactly is a NATO-een?
It has been a mystery to me till now, and still is.
Regards,
user.
From abuse@livejournal.com Fri Jul 15 01:19:12 2005
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Dear LiveJournal user aculeata
On 12 July 2005, we requested that you delete the entry
located at
http://www.livejournal.com/users/aculeata/671209.html.
At that time, you were given 24 hours for this change to
be made. As this time has passed and the required action
has not been taken, your journal has been permanently suspended
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Bonit
LiveJournal Abuse Team
From yulya@thelema.mccme.ru Fri Jul 15 02:40:37 2005
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Dear Bonit,
on Fri Jul 15 01:19:12 2005 you wrote:
>On 12 July 2005, we requested that you delete the entry located at
>http://www.livejournal.com/users/aculeata/671209.html.
Normally I do not delete entries nor comments.
I used the latter option two or three times,
though, to hide certain private information
untactfully disclosed, for someone else's sake.
So, in theory I could comply with your request
should the AT have cared to explain its reasons.
We here do not think lightly of text as text,
and do believe in the net integrity. As it is,
I received no explanation; the entry in question,
I was told, encouraged others to commit an act
of violence towards a group of people. Yet,
when I asked to indicate who might be those
"others" and which group of people was targeted,
I received no response.
This is all very sad.
Regards,
Yulia Fridman.
From abuse+481897zxpga@livejournal.com Fri Jul 15 09:33:12 2005
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Below is an answer to your support question regarding "!51 aculeata re: susp"
(http://www.livejournal.com/support/see_request.bml?id=481897&).
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Dear user
You posted the content fully aware that others were
suspended for posting the same content. We do not
wish to debate this matter with you; you were
instructed to delete the entry in its entirety,
and you failed to do so. As such, your account was
permanently re-suspended
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Scot
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From yulya@thelema.mccme.ru Fri Jul 15 10:08:52 2005
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Dear Scot,
you wrote on Fri Jul 15 09:33:12 2005
>We do not wish to debate this matter with you;
You might not be aware of this, but, in fact, it is
not an issue of your personal wishes or preferences.
Rather, it is your responsibility you pledged to take
upon yourself out of your own free will.
>you were
>instructed to delete the entry in its entirety, and you
>failed to do so. As such, your account was permanently re-suspended
Again, you probably do not realise that you are not in
the position to instruct me, nor any other user, to delete
an entry in its entirety.
If the opportunity to instruct others was the reason
why your volonteered for the job, you just made the
wrong choice.
>You posted the content fully aware that others were suspended
>for posting the same content.
The fact that you acted so many times out of ignorance
of the context does not make you right on yet another
tedious repetition. Quite to the contrary.
Regards,
Yulia Fridman.
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