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Пишет skeptiq ([info]skeptiq)
@ 2003-11-13 00:38:00


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Неоконфедераты
Хороший такой сайтик - http://cavalry.km.ru. С полным набором неоконфедератских мифов.

Вот, допустим:

Ли являлся сторонником союзного устройства, не одобрял сецессию (отделение), считал рабство злом и освободил всех своих рабов.


Эд Себеста, исследователь неоконфедератов, пишет по этому поводу:

We are told that Robert E. Lee freed his slaves. So he did free some, this is historically true. What we are not told, is that the slaves he freed, were to be freed under the terms of the will in which Robert E. Lee inherited them from his father-in-law. They were to be freed in five years after Custis death. Custis died in 1857, Lee freed them in Dec. 29, 1862, about five years.. To not have done so would have been a violation of Virginia law and Custis' will. If Lee really didn't like slavery, you would have thought he would have freed them earlier than waiting to the last.

In a letter written by Robert E. Lee to his wife on Dec. 27, 1856 is as follows:

"In this enlightened age, there are few I believe, but will acknowledge, that slavery as an institution, is a moral & political evil in any Country. It is useless to expatiate on its disadvantages. I think however a greater evil to the white than to the black race, & while my feelings are strongly enlisted in behalf of the latter, my sympathies are more strong for the former. The blacks are immeasurably better off here than in Africa, morally, socially & physically. The painful discipline they are undergoing, is necessary for their instruction as a race, …"

It goes on how some day in the far distant future they might be emancipated.

However, when quoted only the first two sentences are mentioned.

In the myths about Robert E. Lee there are all sorts of slight-of-hands. Alan T. Nolan's book, "Lee Considered: General Robert E. Lee and Civil War History," 1991, Univ. of North Carolina Press, P.O. Box 2288, Chapel Hill, NC 27515-2288, goes through these myths in detail.


А вот свидетельство бывшего раба Ли:

My name is Wesley Norris; I was born a slave on the plantation of George Parke Custis; after the death of Mr. Custis, Gen. Lee, who had been made executor of the estate, assumed control of the slaves, in number about seventy; it was the general impression among the slaves of Mr. Custis that on his death they should be forever free; in fact this statement had been made to them by Mr. C. years before; at his death we were informed by Gen. Lee that by the conditions of the will we must remain slaves for five years; I remained with Gen. Lee for about seventeen months, when my sister Mary, a cousin of ours, and I determined to run away, which we did in the year 1859; we had already reached Westminster, in Maryland, on our way to the North, when we were apprehended and thrown into prison, and Gen. Lee notified of our arrest; we remained in prison fifteen days, when we were sent back to Arlington; we were immediately taken before Gen. Lee, who demanded the reason why we ran away; we frankly told him that we considered ourselves free; he then told us he would teach us a lesson we never would forget; he then ordered us to the barn, where, in his presence, we were tied firmly to posts by a Mr. Gwin, our overseer, who was ordered by Gen. Lee to strip us to the waist and give us fifty lashes each, excepting my sister, who received but twenty; we were accordingly stripped to the skin by the overseer, who, however, had sufficient humanity to decline whipping us; accordingly Dick Williams, a county constable, was called in, who gave us the number of lashes ordered; Gen. Lee, in the meantime, stood by, and frequently enjoined Williams to 'lay it on well,' an injunction which he did not fail to heed; not satisfied with simply lacerating our naked flesh, Gen. Lee then ordered the overseer to thoroughly wash our backs with brine, which was done. After this my cousin and myself were sent to Hanover.


А вот Ли пишет о сецессии:

Secession is nothing but revolution. The framers of our constitution never exhausted so much labor, wisdom, and forbearance in its formation, and surrounded it with so many guards and securities, if it was intended to be broken by every member of the Confederacy at will. It was intended for "perpetual union" so expressed in the preamble, and for the establishment of a government, not a compact, which can only be dissolved by revolution, for the consent of all the people in convention assembled. It is idle to talk of secession. Anarchy would have been established, and not a government, by Washington, Hamilton, Jefferson, Madison, and the other patriots of the Revolution.


Also see: http://www.templeofdemocracy.com/RobertELee.htm

Или вот:

Население Юга перед Войной 1861-65 гг. составляло 12 млн. человек, из них - 9 млн. белых, 3 млн. цветных. Чтобы называться плантатором необходимо было иметь минимум 20 рабов. Таким образом, получается, что к 1860 году на Юге было всего 46 274 плантатора, из них менее 8000 владели 50-ю рабами, у 2892 было 100 рабов, 11 обладали 500 рабами и трое (!) владели тысячью рабами. Выходит, что число плантаторов на Юге составляло менее 0,5% населения. За что же сражались те южане, у которых было один-два раба? Даже если сосчитать всех южан, как мужчин так и женщин, у которых был хотя бы один раб и в таком случае их число не превышало 350 000. Между тем во всех Армиях Юга стояло под ружьем около 600 000. За что же воевали они? Ответ один – они сражались потому, что считали, что их право на собственную независимую жизнь было попрано. Они сражались потому, что ощущали себя нацией, которой угрожает опасность.


http://www.templeofdemocracy.com/Tactics.htm

One of the all time classic arguments used by Neo-Confederate groups over the decades is something like this.

"Only 10 (or 15 or 20 depending) percent of the Confederate soldiers owned, (or had ever owned) slaves, therefore they had no interest in the question of slavery whatsoever and fought for other reasons, "hearth and home."

Let's pass on the question why suddenly the government which had protected "hearth and home" for generations, was suddenly a threat to hearth and home.

The basic assumption here is, Fact A, a soldier not owning a slave, necessarily proves Fact B, he has no interest in it.

We often have an economic interest in some institution or operation even when we have no ownership of it. For example when a industrial plant or a military base leaves a town, there is quite a lot of concerns by people who don't work at the plant or are not in the military. It is well known that in both cases there are economic benefits that go to others indirectly through the spending of the peoples salaries at either the plant or military base.

A slave owner will need: merchants to sell him supplies for his plantation, dealers in cotton, bankers and factors to finance him, mechanics to repair equipment, lawyers to represent his interests, doctors to take care of him and his slaves, real estate agents, schools for his children, contractors for construction of buildings and his home, merchants to sell him domestic items for his household, transportation for his cotton or other agricultural products, some local government for various functions, and other things. These people in turn will have needs also, so the profits of cotton support the economy of where cotton is grown. Everyone has an interest in it.

There is another issue also with slavery. If freed, the ex-slaves would economically compete with those who didn't own slaves, the poor whites.

In "Disloyalty in the Confederacy," by Georgia Lee Tatum, 1934, Chapel Hill, she discusses the history of American Loyalists. In mountains, in swamplands, and other places unsuitable to plantation agriculture, there always seems to be resistance to the Confederacy. Where ever there weren't too many slaves, there didn't seem to be much interest in protecting "hearth and home," except from marauding Confederate authorities.

Ask yourself, if A is true does it necessarily mean B is true.


И еще:

http://cavalry.km.ru/misc/black_confederates.htm

Вы когда-нибудь слышали о чернокожих, воевавших на стороне Конфедерации против северян?


А как же: Needed Myth: The Creation of Black Confederate Soldiers
&
http://members.aol.com/neoconfeds/trclark.htm