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October 8th, 2014

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Россия переходит на отечественный софт

В Государственной думе поддержали инициативу ограничить госзакупки иностранного программного обеспечения, у которого есть российские аналоги. Об этом со ссылкой на главу Комиссии Думы по нормативно-правовому обеспечению развития наукоемких технологий стратегических информационных систем Дмитрия Новикова сообщает «Интерфакс».

«После жаркой дискуссии этот проект поправок был принят», – отметил собеседник агентства.

Одобренный законопроект предполагает запрет для госструктур, госкорпораций и контролируемых государством компаний на закупку иностранных компьютерных продуктов, у которых есть два и более российских аналога. При необходимости закупки иностранного ПО будет необходимо проводить аудит с привлечением ответственных ведомств.

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From:	cosmonazi@lj
Date:	October 8th, 2014 - 10:23 am

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???????????? ?????????? ?????????????? ?? ????????????????????.

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From:	levnovikov@lj
Date:	October 10th, 2014 - 01:48 am

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Антивирус и Офис Попова - знаю, а какой софт написал Бабушкин?

http://lurkmore.to/%D0%94%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%81_%D0%9F%D0%BE%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%B2

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From:	pritkiy_kaban@lj
Date:	October 8th, 2014 - 10:23 am

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???????????????? + ???????????? ?????????? ???? ????????????. ???? ?????? ????????????.

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From:	tdm11@lj
Date:	October 8th, 2014 - 11:04 am

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?? ?????? ?????????? ???????? ?????????????????????????? ???? ????????????.

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From:	ext_2484935@lj
Date:	October 8th, 2014 - 10:25 am

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...
17 ?????? - ???????????? ?? ????????????
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22 ?????? - ?

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From:	piter32@lj
Date:	October 8th, 2014 - 10:30 am

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21 ?????? - ?????????????? ?? ????????????

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From:	tuttinuttan@lj
Date:	October 8th, 2014 - 11:29 am

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21 ?????? - ????????????, ?????????????????????? ????????????

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From:	mitrich@lj
Date:	October 8th, 2014 - 01:26 pm

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"???????????? ?????? ????????????"

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From:	zuukargash@lj
Date:	October 8th, 2014 - 10:29 am

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???? ?? ???? ?????????? ?????????????????? ????????????????.

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From:	ext_1323042@lj
Date:	October 8th, 2014 - 10:32 am

???? ???????????????? Microsoft Word

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???????? ???????????????????? ???????????????? ????????????, ?????? "????????????????" - ?????? ?????????????????? ???????????????? / ?????????????????? ?????????????????? ?????? ???? ?? DOS, ?????????????????? ?? ?????????? 1980-?? ?????????? ?? ???????????????????????????? ???????????? ???????????????? ???????? ???????? ??. ??. ??????????????????.

???????????????? ?????? ?????????????????????? ?????????????????? ?? ?????????? 1980-?? ?? ???????????? ???????????????? 1990-?? ?????????? (???? ?????????????????? ??????????????, ???? ?????? ???????????????????? ???? 95 % ???????? ???????????????????? ????). ?????????????????? ???????????? ?????? MS-DOS ??? 1.4. ?? ???????????????????? ???????? ?????????????? ???????????? ?????????????????? ?????? Windows, ???? ?????? ???? ?????????? ???????????????? ???????????????????? ????-???? ?????????????????????? ???? ?????????????? ?????????????????? ?????????? ?????????????????????????????????? Microsoft Word.

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From:	verunder@lj
Date:	October 8th, 2014 - 01:48 pm

Re: ???? ???????????????? Microsoft Word

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???? ????, ???????? ???????? ????????????????. :) ???????????? ???????? ????????-??????????, ?????? ???? ???????????? ???????????????????? - ???? ??????????, ?? ?????????? ???????? ???????????????????????????? (???????? ?????? ?????? ???? ????????????????????????????)

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From:	ext_2268562@lj
Date:	October 8th, 2014 - 03:54 pm

Re: ???? ???????????????? Microsoft Word

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?? ????????-???????? ?? ?????? ???????? ??????????-???????? ?????????? ????????????????????????????.

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From:	andrez_z_z@lj
Date:	October 8th, 2014 - 10:33 am

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???????????????? ???????????? ??????????. ???? ?????????? ?????? ?????????? ?????????? ?? ?????????????? ?????? ?????????? ?????? ??????????????????????, ???????????? ?????????????????????? ?????????????????? ?? ???????????????? ?????????? ?????? ???? ???????????

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From:	qmax@lj
Date:	October 8th, 2014 - 10:36 am

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?? ?????? ?????????????????????? ??????????-???? ???????????????????? ???????????????
???????????? ??????????????????, ?????????? ???????????? ?????? ?????????????? ?????????????????????

?????????????????? ???????????? ???????????????????? ?? ?????????????????????? ????????????????????????.

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From:	kingeugen@lj
Date:	October 8th, 2014 - 12:53 pm

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???? ?????????????????????? ???????????? ?? ?? ???????????????????? - ?????? ?????? ?????? ???????????????????? ??????????????.

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From:	qmax@lj
Date:	October 8th, 2014 - 02:38 pm

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???????????????????????????? ?????????????? ???????????????? ???????????????? ??????????????, ?? ?????????????????????? ???? ?????? - ???????????????? ????????????.

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From:	kingeugen@lj
Date:	October 9th, 2014 - 07:34 am

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И что? Мне самому додумывать, что для Линукса должно означать, что вы думаете, что половина разработчиков Линукса - шпионы?

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From:	qmax@lj
Date:	October 9th, 2014 - 07:44 am

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Я так не думаю.
Но я и не гос.учереждение.

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From:	kingeugen@lj
Date:	October 9th, 2014 - 09:07 am

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Ну ты в курсе, что такое компилировать программу из кода?

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From:	qmax@lj
Date:	October 9th, 2014 - 09:20 am

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Компиляция кода никак не отменяет авторства этого кода.
Вроде бы это есть даже в гражданском кодексе РФ.

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From:	kingeugen@lj
Date:	October 17th, 2014 - 07:56 am

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А кого интересует авторство кода? Речь идёт о российском продукте, каковым является автомобиль БМВ, если на территории России его собрали из ввезённых отдельно двигателя и корпуса. ТАк же и с программой: не важно, где написан код, важно, где и кто его компилировал. И, как программист, я даже соглашусь с этим.

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From:	mixoil@lj
Date:	October 8th, 2014 - 02:04 pm

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?? ??????????????, ?? ??????????????, 1?? ?????? ???? ?????????? ???? ?????????? ???????????????? ?????????? ???????????????? ?? ????????????????.
(?? ???????????????????? ???? ?????? ?????????? ?????????? ???? 1??, ?????? ?? ?????????????????????? ????????????, ???? ?????????????????? ?? ???????????????????? ????????????...)

?? ?????????????? ?????????? ?? ????????????-????????????????? :-D

???????? ??????????-???? ???????????? ???????????? ?? ?????????? ?????????????? ???????????????? ???? ???????????? ????????????.

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From:	qmax@lj
Date:	October 8th, 2014 - 02:37 pm

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?????? ??????????????, ?????? ?????? ???? ?????????????? ?????? ???????????????????????????? ???????????? ?????????????????? ???????? ???????????? CMS ?????????? ?? ?????????????????????? ????????????.

?? ???????????? ??????????, ???? ???????? ????????????????????????????:
???????? (?????? ?????????????? "????????" ?? "????????????")
??????????????????????????????
??????????????????????
???????? ????????????
???????????????????????? (??????, SCADA, ??????)
?????????????????? (CAD, ??????)

?????????????????????? ?? ???????????? ?????????????????? ????????, ?????? ?????? ??????????????, ?? ?????? ?????? ???????????????????? 1??, ?????????????????? ?????? ???????????????? ?????? ???????????????????? ????????????.
???????????? ?????? ???????????????????????? ?????? ???????????????????? ?? ?????????????? ?? ?????????????????????? ?????????????? ?????????????? ?? ???????? ???? ??????????????, ???????? ?????? ???????????????? ??????????.

???? ???????? ?????????????????? ?????????????? ?? ???? ?????? ?????????? ?????????????? ???? ???????????? ???? ????????.

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From:	amio@lj
Date:	October 8th, 2014 - 10:36 am

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?????????? ???????????????? ??????????????????, ?????? ???????????????? ???????????? ?????????????????? ???? ???????????? ?? ???????????? ???? ?????????????????????????? ????????????????????. ?????? ?? ???????? ?????????? ???????????????????? ???????????????? ?????????? ?????????? ???????????? "????????" ???????????????????? ?????????????? BolgenOS. ?? ?????? ?????? ?? ?????????? ???? ???????? ?????????????? ?? ????????????????????????????.

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From:	foreveo@lj
Date:	October 8th, 2014 - 11:01 am

99% ???????????????????? ???????????????????? ?????? ?????????????? - ????????????????????????

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???????? ?????????? ????????????, ???????????????? ?????? ???????? ???????????????????? ???? ????????????????????????, ?????????????????????? ????????????????, ?????????????? ???????????????? ????????????, ?????????? ?????????????????????? ???? ?????????????????? ?? ????????????????????????, ?? ?????? ?????????? - ?????????????????? ???????????????????? ?????????????????????? ??????????????.

????????????, ?? ???????? ?????????????? ???????????? ???? ?????????????? ???????????? ???????????????????? ???????????????? ?? ???????????????? ???????????????????????? ?? ???????????? ???????????????? ???????? ???? ?????????????? - ???? ???? ???? ?????????????? ?? ??????????????????????????, ?????????? ???????????????????? ???? ????????????!

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From:	cosmonazi@lj
Date:	October 8th, 2014 - 11:17 am

Re: 99% ???????????????????? ???????????????????? ?????? ?????????????? - ????????????????????????

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????????????-???? ???????????????? ???????? ?????? ?????????????? ?? ?????? ??????????????????????????????????, ?? ?????????????????? ???? ???????????? ?????????????? ???????????????????????? ???????????? ?????????????? ??????????????, ?? ?????????????? ?????????? ?????? ?? ????????????????.

?????? ???????????? ?????????????????? ???? ?????? ?????????????????? ???????????????? ???????????? ????????????????????????????, ?????????? ???????????????????? ????????????????-????????????????????????????-??-??????????????-????????????????????????????, ?????? ?????? ???????????? ?????????? ???????????? ?????????????? ?????????? ???????? ?????????? ?? ??????????.

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From:	kingeugen@lj
Date:	October 8th, 2014 - 12:55 pm

Re: 99% ???????????????????? ???????????????????? ?????? ?????????????? - ????????????????????????

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?? ?????????? ?????????????? ??????????????????????????, ???????? ???????? ???????

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From:	qmax@lj
Date:	October 8th, 2014 - 02:42 pm

Re: 99% ???????????????????? ???????????????????? ?????? ?????????????? - ????????????????????????

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???????????????? ?????? ???????????????????????????? ?????????????????? ?????????????? ?? ???????? "???????????????????? ?????????????????????? ???????????????????????? AS IS, ?????????????????????? ???? ???????? ?????????? ?? ????????, ?? ???? ???? ?????????? ?????????????????????????????? ???? ???? ?????????? ???? ??????????, ???? ????????????, ?????????????????? ?????????? ???? ??????????????????????"

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From:	kingeugen@lj
Date:	October 9th, 2014 - 07:32 am

Re: 99% ???????????????????? ???????????????????? ?????? ?????????????? - ????????????????????????

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?????????? ?? ???????? ???????????? ?? ?? ???????????? ??????????????????.

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From:	silvestris2014@lj
Date:	October 8th, 2014 - 10:51 am

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?? ???? ?????????????????????

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From:	toropyggka@lj
Date:	October 8th, 2014 - 10:54 am

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Windows, windows ?????????? ?????????????? ??????????????. ?????? ?????????? ???????????????????????? ?????????????????? ???????????????????????? ?????????????????? ?????????????! ?????? ????????????????????, ?????? ????????????, ?????? ????????????, ?? ?????????????? ??????????????

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From:	ext_666046@lj
Date:	October 8th, 2014 - 11:02 am

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>???????????????????? ???????????????????????? ???????????????????????? ??????????????????????, ?? ???????????????? ???????? ???????????????????? ??????????????

Kaspersky Lab ???????????????? ???????????????? ????????.

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From:	bvbslava@lj
Date:	October 8th, 2014 - 11:06 am

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???? ??????????. ?? ???????? ?? ?? ?????????? ????????????????.

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From:	bvbslava@lj
Date:	October 8th, 2014 - 11:05 am

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> ?? ???????????????? ???????? ???????????????????? ??????????????

?????? ???????????????????? ??????????? ????,?????????????????? ?? 1?? ???????? ??????????????. ?????? ???????

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From:	qmax@lj
Date:	October 8th, 2014 - 02:45 pm

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?????????????????? ?? 1?? ?? ?????? ?? ??????????-???? ?????? ??????????????????????, ?????????????????? ???????????????????? ???????????????? ?????? ?????????????? ?? ???????????????????? ????????????.

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From:	tdm11@lj
Date:	October 8th, 2014 - 11:06 am

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?? 2015-???? - ???? ???????? ?????????????????????? ??????????????????!
?? ????????????.

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From:	krocodl@lj
Date:	October 8th, 2014 - 11:25 am

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???????????? ???? ?????????????????? - ???????????? ?????? ?????????? ???????????? ??????????????

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From:	volodymir_k@lj
Date:	October 8th, 2014 - 12:30 pm

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?????????????? ???? ?? ???????????????? ??????-???????????????????? "?? ?????????????????????????? ?????????????????????? ??????????????????" ??????????????:
- ?????? ????????-??????????????
- ???????????????? ?? ???????????? ?????????? ?????????????????? -- ???????????? ?????????? ?????? ?????? ??????

???????????? ?????????????? ???????????????? ???? ???????????? ???????????????????? ??????????, ???? ?? ?????????????????? ???? ??????????, ?? ?? ?? ??????

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From:	terijoki@lj
Date:	October 8th, 2014 - 01:15 pm

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????, ?? ?? ???????? ??????-???? "????????????????" ?????????????????? ???? 5,25' ????????????????. ?????????? ??????????. ?? ?????????? ???????? ?? ?????? ?????? ????????? ????????????????????, ???????? ?? ???????????????? ???????????? The Bat!

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From:	qmax@lj
Date:	October 8th, 2014 - 02:43 pm

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TheBat ????????????????????.

???? ?? ?????? - ?????? Far, ??????????????.

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From:	terijoki@lj
Date:	October 9th, 2014 - 03:16 am

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Bat ????????????????????? ???? ????????. ??????????????! ??????, ????????????????, ?? ?????? RAR ??????????????

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From:	migmit@lj
Date:	October 9th, 2014 - 05:33 am

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??????, ??????????????, ???? ?????? RAR, ???? ?? ???????? ?????????????????? ???????? ??????????, ?????? ??????????????????:

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From:	ext_1276888@lj
Date:	October 8th, 2014 - 01:26 pm

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"?????????????????? ?? ??????????"

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From:	grigoriyz@lj
Date:	October 8th, 2014 - 02:04 pm

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?? ???? ???????????? ???????????????????? ????????????????:
?????????? ???? ???????????? ??????????????;)

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From:	klark973@lj
Date:	October 8th, 2014 - 02:45 pm

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????-????????????, ?????????????? ???????????????? "???????????????????????????? ?????????????????????????? ?? ????????????????????????" ??-???? ?????????????????? ?? ?????????????? ?????????????????????? ?????? ???? ?????????????? ?????? ??????????????????. ?????? ???????? ???????? ???????????? ?????? ??????????. ???? ???????????? ???????????????? ?????????????? ???????????? ??????, ???????? ???????????? ???????????????? ???????? ???????????? ?? ???????????????????????????? ??????????????. ???????????? ??????????, ?????????????????? ??????-????????????????????. ????????????-???? ???????? ?????? ?????????? ????????????. ????-????????????, ?????????? ???????? ?????????? ?????? ?????????? ?????????????? ?????? ???????? ??????????????. ?????? ???? ?????????? ?????? ?????????????? ???????????????????????? ??????????????????. ?? ???????????? ??????...

?????? ???????????????? ?????????? ????????????, ?????????????????? ???? ????????????. ?????? ??????????????????, ???????????? ???? ?????? ?????? ???? ?????????????????? ?????????????????? ???????????????? ???? ???????????????? ???????? ?????????????? ?????????????????? ???? ?????? ???? 2015 ????????. ?????????????????? ???? ?????? - "???????????????????????? ?????????????????????? ??????????????????", ???????????????????????? ?????????? ????. ?????? ?????????????? ???????????????????? ?? ???????????????? ???? ???????????? ????????.

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From:	dmitry_sushkov@lj
Date:	October 8th, 2014 - 04:11 pm

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?????????? ?? ??????????????????

http://habrahabr.ru/post/239647/

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From:	qmax@lj
Date:	October 9th, 2014 - 09:44 am

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"""Отечественным производителем информационно-коммуникационных технологий признают компании, в которых доля иностранного капитала не превышает 25% минус одна акция, а 75% ее продаж приходится на Россию."""

Тоесть, разработчики и авторы системы тут вообще по боку.
Можно сделать ооо из 1 человека, продавать чужое ПО, и считаться "отечественным производителем".

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