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"U.S. Marine kills wounded insurgent" Petition [Nov. 21st, 2004|07:34 pm]
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I did not sign it.
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From:[info]progulshik@lj
Date:November 21st, 2004 - 01:55 pm

I did!!!

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Why you did not?
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From:[info]cema@lj
Date:November 21st, 2004 - 02:22 pm
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I think such cases need to be studied, case by case, in military courts. In most cases, I am sure, the accused will be let free, and in such cases they deserve some kind of official recognition, not a medal, but a kind of letter of appreciation or something. In some cases, however, there will be abuse, and these should be prosecuted.
From:[info]progulshik@lj
Date:November 21st, 2004 - 02:39 pm
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what are you talking about?
...>>there will be abuse,<<...

shame on you.
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From:[info]cema@lj
Date:November 21st, 2004 - 02:50 pm
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There will be abuse. Every army has some. Marines are professionals and would not usually abuse the rules. However, there are and always will be exceptions. There is a good reason judicial system exists, isn't there? I cannot vouchsafe for its 100% accuracy in making decisions, but neither can one when seaking for the marines in a battle.

As for this particular case, people may confuse the following situations: (1) The shooting was the right thing to do; (2) the shooting was wrong, but the marine followed the rules and therefore did the right thing, and the killed Iraqi is an unfortunate victim of conditions; (3) the shooting was wrong and the marine has to be punished. I think a careful consideration will cleaar this up. I am inclined to see this as (2), but I would postpone any judgement.

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From:[info]cema@lj
Date:November 21st, 2004 - 04:31 pm

Some typos

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I am prone to little typos recently, but which word I meant to write when I wrote "seaking" I have no idea.
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From:[info]email_animal@lj
Date:November 22nd, 2004 - 01:37 am

Re: Some typos

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speaking?
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From:[info]cema@lj
Date:November 22nd, 2004 - 07:38 am
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Yeah, possibly.
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From:[info]email_animal@lj
Date:November 21st, 2004 - 02:26 pm
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A more interesting question is why you, after deciding you won't be singing it, mentioned it here...

(ps. I, obviously, did not sign it).
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From:[info]cema@lj
Date:November 21st, 2004 - 02:50 pm
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Because I think this is an interesting phenomenon. Opinions on both sides seem to be formed without much independent thinking, and still they run strong.

You might also ask me why I mention stayput.org while not adhering to their political agenda. A phenomenon. :-)
From:[info]vkelman@lj
Date:November 21st, 2004 - 04:48 pm

Opinions on both sides seem to be formed without much independent thinking

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Totally agree.
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From:[info]email_animal@lj
Date:November 22nd, 2004 - 01:35 am
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Opinions on both sides seem to be formed without much independent thinking, and still they run strong.

It surprises you?

From my particular standpoint, I do not find this petition, or a possible alternative petition to stop killing Iraqis, interesting. They are absolutely predictable, and, at this stage, serve no purpose.
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From:[info]cema@lj
Date:November 22nd, 2004 - 07:39 am
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It does not surprise me. But I think it is an interesting phenomenon. I also thought that some of my friends might want to sign it.