Columbia disaster: from other threads |
[Feb. 3rd, 2003|01:36 am] |
Participated in two threads (here and here) and decided to repeat my words here.
• We should avoid confusing religious and philosophical issues with technical issues. If you want to find a "meaning" to this, it's the former; if you want to know why this happened and how to fix the problem, it's the latter.
• [Jewish luck] Yes, there was a Jewish astronaut in Columbia and there was one in Challenger. So what? There were 3 large catastrophes in the US space program (Apollo 1 in training, Challenger on liftoff, Columbia on landing) as well as 3 large catastrophes in the Soviet space program (Bondarenko in training, Soyuz 1 on landing, Soyuz 11 on landing). Jews, if you insist on counting, were present in 2 of the 6 cases, and did not pilot either craft. On the other hand, there were several Jewish astro- and cosmonauts whose missions were completed successfully.
• What could have been done, had they had a chance to know about the problem in advance? They could not walk around the shuttle, because there were no technical means for that. But they could dock at the ISS (International Space Station), since the docking mechanisms are unified. This is a difficult maneuver, but no more difficult than landing. Both crafts can maneuver, in case there was not enough fuel in the shuttle tanks. Then the shuttle crew could use the attached Soyuz craft to land, and another Soyuz would have to be launched quickly (this is the tricky part, since there is no replacement Soyuz craft ready, AFAIK, but I am sure a Progress could be adapted, since it is essentially a modified Soyuz anyway). Fuel and other consumables could be replaced by the Progress ready to launch (it would have to be repacked, of course). In addition, the shuttle attached to the station could be space-walked, the problem diagnozed and fixed, if possible.
Disclaimer: I have no idea what I am talking about. I just think this is a better way to commemorate, and I prefer commemoration to commiseration. |
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From: | (Anonymous) |
Date: | February 3rd, 2003 - 05:18 am |
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I read somewhere that Columbia, the only of shuttles, was not equipped for docking with ISS. Could you check that ?
I wonder if one could adjust the trajectory of descent if you know it is probable you'll be losing protection tiles.
I read somewhere that Columbia, the only of shuttles, was not equipped for docking with ISS. Could you check that ?Columbia was not logistically in the ISS program, that's true. Was it not equipped for docking? Let me see waht I can find... actually Columbia cannot go to the International Space Station right now. It does not have what we call an external docking system, or the orbital docking system as we sometimes call it, which would allow it to dock to the International Space Station. You are right, no proper docking lock. Somebody from ISS would have to walk down to the shuttle with extra space suits! (I know, I know: suits are personal, but perhaps a "wrong" suit could be used for a short walk, if it is a matter of life and death.) I wonder if one could adjust the trajectory of descent if you know it is probable you'll be losing protection tiles.If the tiles are not well attached, they are going to be lost whatever the trajectory. I cannot imagine there is any part of the vehicle surface where the external forces would be so soft as to let what is essentially a partially detached tile stay stuck. Tiles are a weak spot in the design. Perhaps the weakest spot, because I do not see how it could be fixed at all (save for developing an even stronger glue, if that is a solution). Shuttles are not a particularly good idea anyway. They are too expensive to operate, and the failure rate is too high. But it is good to have more than one way to do things, and in addition to the (succesful, IMHO) Soyuz capsule, it would be good to have an alternative. Just something more reliable than what we have now.
![[User Picture]](http://lj.rossia.org/userpic/7795/2147484590) | From: | cema@lj |
Date: | February 3rd, 2003 - 02:05 pm |
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Here is what Jerusalem Post has to say. Emphasis is mine; maybe I will add comments later. Feb. 4, 2003 Could the shuttle have been saved? By PHILIP CHIEN
Many people are asking whether there is any way the shuttle crew could have saved themselves, had a critical problem with the Columbia's heat shield been detected while it was still in orbit. The simple answer is no. No plausible rescue scenario could have worked.
Could Columbia have docked with the space station and waited there for a rescue shuttle to take the crew home? Columbia was in a different orbit from the space station. The change in velocity required to move from one orbit to another is 6,048 kph. The amount of energy required to change Columbia's orbit into one matching the space station translates into 52,300 kgs. of propellant more than twice what the shuttle could lift into orbit, even if that's all that was in the shuttle's cargo bay.
And even if Columbia happened to be in the same orbit as the space station, it did not have a docking adapter.
Could the shuttle crew tough it out and just wait in space until a rescue shuttle could be launched? Columbia had enough supplies to remain in space until Wednesday, February 5. Even if the critical damage had been noticed on January 17, the day after Columbia's launch, there still would not have been enough time to get a rescue shuttle ready for flight, launch it, perform a rendezvous in space with Columbia, and transfer the crew before their supplies ran out. Even if everybody went on short rations, they would still need to breathe air, and just as importantly use the lithium hydroxide scrubbers to remove the carbon dioxide from the cabin. But unlike Apollo 13, there was no supply of additional carbon dioxide scrubbers on Columbia.
If there were indications that a heat-shield tile was damaged on the bottom of Columbia's wing, could the astronauts have made an emergency spacewalk to do a repair? NASA actually thought about a shuttle-tile repair kit, basically a fancy caulk gun to squeeze a heat-resistant material into the cavity left by a lost tile. But the engineers decided that the chances of actually doing some good were remote, while the chances of an astronaut accidentally doing more damage were pretty high. Most important, there are no hand-holds on the bottom of the shuttle's wings to support an astronaut attempting a repair.
Could the astronauts have bailed out? Their orange launch-and-entry suits provide protection during a bailout and a life raft and parachute form part of the astronaut's seat and back cushion. The shuttle's outer hatch would be blown off with explosive bolts and an escape pole would extend to ensure the astronauts would clear the wing. Each astronaut would slide down the pole and use a parachute to land in the ocean and then enter the one-man life raft and wait to get picked up. During reentry Columbia was flying far too high and too fast to allow any escape.
![[User Picture]](http://lj.rossia.org/userpic/7795/2147484590) | From: | cema@lj |
Date: | February 3rd, 2003 - 03:30 pm |
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