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Лингвафилы, лингвафилы...
По стечению обстоятельств я являюсь одним из смотрителей сообщества![[info]](http://lj.rossia.org/img/userinfo-lj.gif)
linguaphiles@lj. Я у них, в основном, отвечаю за русский язык. Языков там много, траффик большой, смотрителей тоже человек 7. И есть у нас свой внутренний mailing list.
Давеча я сутки в ЖЖ не заходил, и пока меня не было, произошел такой пассаж: какой-то аноним ни к селу ни к городу запузырил в одну из лингвистических дискуссий два коммента по-русски, а точнее на языке падонкофф. Среди смотрителей никто русского не знает, пара человек имют поверхностное представление. Ниже следует развитие обсуждения среди смотрителей - линвафилов, в результате которого они, в общем, самостоятельно во всем разобрались:
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смотритель "S", 22 Фев 2007 20:27:17
What's with the Russian on this post?
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"S":22 Фев 2007 20:44:37
Yeah, I got that. I'm assuming "stutsko" is an insult, but the translator didn't seem to like the other one.
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"B":22 Фев 2007 21:53:41
*shrugs* No clue, then. So random. Gazenwagen looks German. I know Wagen means car... but I can't find any other meanings that make sense, changing the "word" gazen to ganzen and gasen, etc. Place name?
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смотритель "C":22 Фев 2007 20:32:48
I looked up Pervonakhov v gazenvagen
Pervonahkov looks like the plural of Pervonakh. Pervonakh looks like it comes
from Первый нах (Pervy nakh) which means "first place." According to
http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%96%D0%B0%D1%80%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%BD_%D0%BF%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%BE%D0%BD%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%B2
(Zhargon padonkov - Center jargon?) you write it when you are the first to
comment on a blog or lj entry.
Gazenvagen comes from gas-wagen (gas wagons or gas vans) - it's basically a
mobile gas chamber that the Nazis used in WWII.
So first place in the gas wagon?
Still stumped on stsuko.
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"С":22 Фев 2007 20:45:45
Ok, there's a definition of stsuko in that Zhargon Padankov article on the
Russian Wikipedia.
The translator says (slightly edited):
"When used as a noun can express the entire spectrum of relations : from the
negative (/tut again call these stsuki equivalent) and ironic-negative before
positive-vostorjenno th (/jjosh, stsuko!!!/). It is used as an interjection
which reinforces the importance of, for example : /Albanian, stsuko, slozhny/.
Google seems to bring up these phrases a lot .. like "Learn Albanian Stsuko!!"
and "Pervonakh!!" makes me want to take up learning Russian again. hehe.
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смотритель "P":23 Фев 2007 09:17:43
> Учи албанский, Сцуко = Learn Albanian, Stsuko????.
That reminds me of this thread:
http://brad.livejournal.com/2283813.html?thread=12951333#t12951333
Where a couple of users try to explain padonkof slang and the
"obsession with learning Albanian", with assorted links to places.
The impression I get is that it's vaguely comparable to "133tsp3ak" in English.
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"C":23 Фев 2007 05:01:14
> Yeah, I wish my russian were still good. stsuko just made me think of suka
> which is 'bitch', so I was wondering.
Aha. On that page "suka" was put in parentheses at the stsuko entry.
> Oh well, if people start spontaneously speaking Guarani or Finnish, I'm
> there. :P
Thanks! We can count on you. hehe.
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"C": 23 Фев 2007 05:13:05
Oh, interesting, Philip. Apparently this "Learn Albanian" thing started here on
LJ and has spread on the internet. And it all started with an American LJ-er.
lol
http://onepamop.livejournal.com/240305.html?thread=2064817
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По стечению обстоятельств я являюсь одним из смотрителей сообщества
linguaphiles@lj. Я у них, в основном, отвечаю за русский язык. Языков там много, траффик большой, смотрителей тоже человек 7. И есть у нас свой внутренний mailing list.Давеча я сутки в ЖЖ не заходил, и пока меня не было, произошел такой пассаж: какой-то аноним ни к селу ни к городу запузырил в одну из лингвистических дискуссий два коммента по-русски, а точнее на языке падонкофф. Среди смотрителей никто русского не знает, пара человек имют поверхностное представление. Ниже следует развитие обсуждения среди смотрителей - линвафилов, в результате которого они, в общем, самостоятельно во всем разобрались:
...
смотритель "S", 22 Фев 2007 20:27:17
What's with the Russian on this post?
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смотритель "B", 22 Фев 2007 21:40:38
Первонахов в газенваген!!!! = Pervonakhov in gazenwagen! ???
Учи албанский, Сцуко = Learn Albanian, Stsuko????.
Первонахов в газенваген!!!! = Pervonakhov in gazenwagen! ???
Учи албанский, Сцуко = Learn Albanian, Stsuko????.
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"S":22 Фев 2007 20:44:37
Yeah, I got that. I'm assuming "stutsko" is an insult, but the translator didn't seem to like the other one.
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"B":22 Фев 2007 21:53:41
*shrugs* No clue, then. So random. Gazenwagen looks German. I know Wagen means car... but I can't find any other meanings that make sense, changing the "word" gazen to ganzen and gasen, etc. Place name?
-----------------------
смотритель "C":22 Фев 2007 20:32:48
I looked up Pervonakhov v gazenvagen
Pervonahkov looks like the plural of Pervonakh. Pervonakh looks like it comes
from Первый нах (Pervy nakh) which means "first place." According to
http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%96%D
(Zhargon padonkov - Center jargon?) you write it when you are the first to
comment on a blog or lj entry.
Gazenvagen comes from gas-wagen (gas wagons or gas vans) - it's basically a
mobile gas chamber that the Nazis used in WWII.
So first place in the gas wagon?
Still stumped on stsuko.
--------------------------
"С":22 Фев 2007 20:45:45
Ok, there's a definition of stsuko in that Zhargon Padankov article on the
Russian Wikipedia.
The translator says (slightly edited):
"When used as a noun can express the entire spectrum of relations : from the
negative (/tut again call these stsuki equivalent) and ironic-negative before
positive-vostorjenno th (/jjosh, stsuko!!!/). It is used as an interjection
which reinforces the importance of, for example : /Albanian, stsuko, slozhny/.
Google seems to bring up these phrases a lot .. like "Learn Albanian Stsuko!!"
and "Pervonakh!!" makes me want to take up learning Russian again. hehe.
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смотритель "R":22 Фев 2007 22:58:08
Yeah, I wish my russian were still good. stsuko just made me think of suka which is 'bitch', so I was wondering.
Oh well, if people start spontaneously speaking Guarani or Finnish, I'm there. :P
Yeah, I wish my russian were still good. stsuko just made me think of suka which is 'bitch', so I was wondering.
Oh well, if people start spontaneously speaking Guarani or Finnish, I'm there. :P
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смотритель "P":23 Фев 2007 09:17:43
> Учи албанский, Сцуко = Learn Albanian, Stsuko????.
That reminds me of this thread:
http://brad.livejournal.com/2283813.htm
Where a couple of users try to explain padonkof slang and the
"obsession with learning Albanian", with assorted links to places.
The impression I get is that it's vaguely comparable to "133tsp3ak" in English.
----------------------------
"C":23 Фев 2007 05:01:14
> Yeah, I wish my russian were still good. stsuko just made me think of suka
> which is 'bitch', so I was wondering.
Aha. On that page "suka" was put in parentheses at the stsuko entry.
> Oh well, if people start spontaneously speaking Guarani or Finnish, I'm
> there. :P
Thanks! We can count on you. hehe.
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"C": 23 Фев 2007 05:13:05
Oh, interesting, Philip. Apparently this "Learn Albanian" thing started here on
LJ and has spread on the internet. And it all started with an American LJ-er.
lol
http://onepamop.livejournal.com/240
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