Illegality of animal torture does not mean that its representation
is illegal. Say, the murder is illegal, but Hollywood films depicting
murder are not.

Regarding the "encouragement", I would say opposite: for normal people
the acts depicted are reprehensible, and their depiction actually
discourages the torture. For people getting their kicks from such
activity, it's their right to get their kicks from whatever they like,
even animal torture or eating shit. There is no laws proscribing
eating shit or masturbating to animal torture (fortunately).

If they actually torture animals (and do this in a country
where such torture is prohibited), you are free to call the police,
but I know of no laws which prohibit the depiction of torture or
even murder.

And, to be honest, I would hate anybody who would try to pass
such laws. Hollywood movies are disgusting, sure, but an attempt to
prohibit them entirely is even more so.

All the best
Misha

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This is not depiction...this is very real. Why not download a link from the lj.rossia user?

The people involved mostly were arrested. The police have already been alerted to these videos.

Here is a video news reports from the P.I
http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/video/lifestyle/04/28/11/exclusive-pinays-making-money-animal-crush-videos

Here is a link to an article from a china blog site. Scroll down for photos
http://www.chinasmack.com/2010/stories/rabbit-crush-fetish-video-chinese-netizens-investigate.html

Alerting people to these activities is one thing...actually promoting them and encouraging users to download the videos is something else.
The LJ.Rossia member(s) are clearly fans of these videos and a quick google search will bring others here looking for the same.

I'm all for internet freedom with regards xxx material and fetish stuff. This material crosses the line and should be given the same treatment as child abuse, genuine rape and snuff films.

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We have no rules allowing us to arbitrary ban anything we do not like.
Such banning is prohibited explicitly.

If you believe in freedom of speech, you believe in freedom of speech for views you don't like. Stalin and Hitler, for example, were dictators in favor of freedom of speech for views they liked only. If you're in favor of freedom of speech, that means you're in favor of freedom of speech precisely for views you despise."

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Freedom of speech has limits. It has to. Otherwise it can be used to allow anything and everything.

This board has an anti spam policy. Surely that overrides my freedom to advertise a product of my choosing?
Should this rule be overturned as my freedom of speech has been compromised?

You can see how this 'freedom' can be abused. I think the crush fetish fans have abused the tolerance of this site to use it as a platform where they can swap animal abuse video links.
It is beyong digusting. It promotes torture and provides a place where this activity is tolerated under the guise of freedom of speech.

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I would personally put against the wall and shot all people
who think that "freedom of speech has limits". These guys are
fascists, dangerous lunatics, and the world would be so much better
if all these guys were removed. Fascists are like cancer, or
spam, if you don't kill them early, they grow and multiply
until it's too late.

This is my personal opinion.
But generally, we don't impose any restrictions here
unless the law forces us to.

All the best
Misha

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Just to give you a taste of what i am talking about...here are 2 links i found from the blog on LJ.rossia

Notice toward the end how the dog is still alive as it's intestines spill out

http://imageshost.ru/photo/174480/id855976.html

puppies get abused too

http://imageshost.ru/photo/200049/id855982.html

links taken from this lj.rossia page: http://lj.rossia.org/community/crush_fetish_1/5327.html?page=17#comments
where users swap links and request more.

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why should I visit those links?
I know already it's disgusting. So what?
90% of the people and their views are completely disgusting,
no better than shit.

But it's no reason to run around shooting everybody.
On the Internet, we can just ignore those things we don't like.

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