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2021-05-18 05:58 (ссылка)

cont...
Anyway the short and thick of it is this. As the price of basic shit goes up the alternatives will just become more attractive to people on a budget, i.e. the overwhelming majority of people. Thinking of an overseas holiday? Well maybe not considering the air ticket will have a 450% environmental tax surcharge. You are probably going to keep your clothes for longer too, or perhaps buy more durable ones, since that cheap Chinese shit now attracts a 340% tax. Yes. We take into account offshore environmental costs too, so that phone is now going to be in the order of 25 times more expensive. Probably you will start taking your food containers to the supermarket since the shop owners will now have to levy a hefty tax on any product that has one-use packaging. So they will respond with bulk bins and other options. Anything made out of plastics, concrete and steel will get heavy taxes, but its agricultural land use that will really hit home for most people.
Oh yeah, and your batteries will go through the fucking roof.
But like I said, this will happen slowly because of domestic resistance to introducing more taxes. Who ever won an election by saying "We are going to save the planet by taxing the fuck out of you! " ? And here is the irony. This will happen but at a rate too slow to really mitigate the damage in any meaningful sense. You see most of us guys come from an environmental science background and we know we are fucked, pretty much regardless of what we do now, other than going full global environmental fascist..

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stereo_sanctity
2021-05-18 12:46 (ссылка)

I'm of two minds about this problem, personally. I do think it's critically important that we think about social and political vulnerabilities in the face of climate change—warming will deliver a lot of suffering onto many more societies, many of which will be thrown into some amount of disarray and decay, and some of which are likely to collapse into civil war. But I also think it's critically important to understand that none of these impacts are uniform: climate change punishes different parts of the world differently, different societies will prove more or less capable of responding and adapting to it, and there is some amount of chance that helps determine whether, say, a crop failure leads to social difficulty or a robust and restorative public and collective response. Which is all to say: we should take very seriously — in the media, but also in our politics, and even in our personal lives, as we contemplate these questions — the possibility of climate-driven social collapse, which I think we have already seen in parts of the world. But we shouldn't think that the story is a binary one, where the world as a whole passes from the seeming stability of the present to total collapse. Much likely is a future in which most places prove relatively resilient, though burdened by climate suffering, but a number of vulnerable countries and cultures fall apart under the pressure, posing an open question to the rest of the world: what obligation is felt between nations, what is owed, what counts as "justice" in this context, and how can we expand our humanitarian feelings to attend to the needs of those with the least? Of course, those are many of the same moral dilemmas posed by global inequality today—only exacerbated and made more explicit.

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	(Анонимно) 2021-05-18 13:12 (ссылка)
	постите ссылки, уроды. (Ответить) (Уровень выше) (Ветвь дискуссии)

	(Анонимно) 2021-05-18 16:47 (ссылка)
	нахуя? тебе мало говна здесь, ты хочешь поесть говна в источнике? (Ответить) (Уровень выше) (Ветвь дискуссии)

	(Анонимно) 2021-05-18 18:16 (ссылка)
	хочу знать кто источник, для начала. Сочные набросы без биографии совершенно не интересны. (Ответить) (Уровень выше) (Ветвь дискуссии)

	stereo_sanctity 2021-05-18 21:24 (ссылка)
	reddit.com/r/collapse (Ответить) (Уровень выше) (Ветвь дискуссии)

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2021-05-21 09:48 (ссылка)

Вот источник:

https://boards.4channel.org/sci/thread/13142652/what-is-the-explanation-for-this#p13148529

В день расскрина исходной цитаты гугл ещё не отиндексировал этот пост, и мы должны были блять гадать, в каком контексте это было сказано. Есть неслабая разница между допустим выжимкой из твиттерного треда от кого-то с именем и должностью, и анонимным высером на /sci/. Аноны, которые постят без ссылок -- просто гады.

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2021-05-21 18:46 (ссылка)

нет никакой разницы между одним информационным мусором и другим

а ты попросту говноед, знатно разбирающийся в сортах говна, коллекционируешь его, конспектируешь блядь долбоёб
и скорее всего вообще живёшь в барнауле (алтайский край), как и положено говноеду

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