I agree. Something else just occurred to me. You know how Russians like rules? Most of the time they hate them or just ignore them.
That is why after reading a lot of haiku and about haiku and learning rules(some more then the others) Russian poets put all rules in the back of their minds and write their own idea of three verse poetry - kind of a variation on haiku. Sometimes with amazingly good or bad results. Knowing the rules but bending them a little or a lot can be an interesting way to create something new in art! Don't you agree?

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I agree, there's nothing wrong with bending the rules, especially in art. The only caveat would be, one has know what those rules are :)

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Sure, to have the right to bend the rules first you have to really master them.

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at least know them :)

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Sometimes it is better if people do not know the rules.

There are two sets of people writing "Polish haiku":
1) people who know, that haiku is a poem of 5-7-5 syllables,
and nothing more
2) people who know about the syllables, nature, pictures, feelings
etc. - they use such set of rules, that using them you can find
that majority of the Masters' haiku are not haiku ;-) eg. Basho
(a crow on the branch - 5-10-5), Buson (a comb in the sleeping
room - no nature), Basho (a cicada in the cage - "loneliness"
is not an image)...

It is easier for me to read English and Russian haiku using
dictionary, than find haiku written in Polish.

disappointment -
looking for haiku
among haiku

best regards,
Grzegorz

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as far as I remember, the forth "Tritonus" have published some Polish haiku - I must look them through...

There one can read haiku in Polish in the web?

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If you really want to read haiku, read few poems of Jacek Margolak at
http://poezja-haiku.webpark.pl/nadeslane.html

If you want to know, what I wanted to say writing about "Polish haiku", read:

http://www.poezja.org/debiuty/viewforum.php?id=11
http://www.namida.pl/index.php?kategoria=haiku


You can translate them into Russians at:
http://www.1-800-translate.com/machine_trans/

You can also try to find "Polish haiku" in Google searching "haiku"
in the Polish poetry group pl.hum.poezja

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Thanks for the links. I need to brush up my Polish to really enjoy the haiku.

I liked this one:

mój stary kożuch -
na wytartym kołnierzu
noworoczny śnieg

мой старый тулуп -
на вытертом воротнике
новогодний снег

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Very good choice, very good translation. Word by word. Even the numbers of syllables in the verses are almost the same. I like it very much too, specially, that Jacek M. have started with a good image but with a very strange form, and he has obtained the final version with a little help from his friends:
http://www.poezja.org/debiuty/viewtopic.php?id=16923

Jacek M. writes something similar to Russian haiku, he keeps 5-7-5, but he use the word "my" if he need it. In Polish haiku it is not popular.

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Thanks for the link. It was interesting for me to see how the original was transformed as the result of the discussion.

Translating from Polish to Russian seems to be a lot easier than from English to Russian. Many word roots are very similar.

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