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1) Говорят, у левых активистов забирают детей.
История темная, но небеспрецедентная: при советской
власти, случалось, диссидентов лишали родительских
прав. Только не за бедность, а за диагноз. Сейчас
ведь, в общем, откапывают Брежнева. Ну, понятно,
детей надо воспитывать так, чтобы органам опеки
с ними не поздоровилось.

2) Студенты, школьники, инвалиды без легкого
и профессора консерватории, наслушавшись Нургалиева,
продолжают нападать на милицию, а та защищается.
Нургалиев не поможет взбесившимся профессорам.

3) Космический принц вернулся и стал высок, как
богиня Нахема, хотя от тоски по ней меня ништо
не излечит.

4) У моих детей есть Воины Зла. По их словам, имена
у Воинов такие: Демон, Циклоп, Скелетина и Молчаливый.
Молчаливый пропал, не можем найти. В. на вопрос
о том, куда они его дели, отвечает: "Молчаливый
ушел в Серые." Больше ничего об этом не говорит.
Я часто думаю об этом теперь.
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From:[info]tristes_tigres
Date:February 17th, 2010 - 07:50 pm
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хотя от тоски по ней меня ништо не излечит.

Так вот же она !

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From:[info]aculeata
Date:February 17th, 2010 - 07:56 pm
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Излечили!

Я на нее подписана, но последних постов не
видела в ленте. Буду следить.
From:[info]tristes_tigres
Date:February 17th, 2010 - 07:58 pm
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Пусть этот миг пройдет
Больше не нужно слов.
В этой кромешной тьме
Сердце мое в тебе.
В даль утекает жизнь
Дух уходящий ввысь
Голос уже не мой.
Стала себе чужой.
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From:[info]aculeata
Date:February 17th, 2010 - 11:43 pm
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Это прекрасная музыка, и очень похожую я слышала
в клипе, который мне показывал Миша В., хотя я просила
его этого не делать, даже плакала -- только надо
чуть-чуть подправить слова --

Пусть этот миг пройдет,
Как первый случайный вечер,
Больше не нужно слов.
Губы твои, как мед,
Верила в нашу встречу,
Это пришла любовь.

В этой кромешной тьме
Больше не нужно песен,
Сердце мое в тебе.
Ты стал понятен мне,
Мир нам уже не тесен,
Так угодно судьбе.

В даль утекает жизнь,
Прошлое стало дальним,
Больше не нужно слез.
Дух уходящий ввысь
Знает универсальный
Ответ на любой вопрос.

Голос уже не мой.
Стала себе чужой.
Больше не нужно слов.
Больше не нужно песен,
Мир нам уже не тесен,
Нас уносит любовь.
From:[info]karantin
Date:February 18th, 2010 - 01:12 am
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Самое лучшее в этом стихотворении -- слово универсальный.

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From:[info]aculeata
Date:February 18th, 2010 - 01:32 am
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Это Песня же. Про Любовь.
А так да.
From:[info]tristes_tigres
Date:February 18th, 2010 - 02:03 pm
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В вас определённо есть что-то от Феломены, Пользователь Акулеата
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From:[info]aculeata
Date:February 18th, 2010 - 02:45 pm
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Даже не знаю, смогу ли вернуть Вам Комплимент.
Есть ли в Вас что-то от Феломены?
From:[info]tristes_tigres
Date:February 18th, 2010 - 05:10 pm
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Комплимент для меня был бы, если бы в Феломене было кое-что от меня
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From:[info]oona
Date:February 19th, 2010 - 04:19 am
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Oooh, he's flirting with you!!! ;)
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From:[info]aculeata
Date:February 19th, 2010 - 11:52 am
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Right, sister. He might think he's being deadly ironic,
but _we_ know he's flirting!
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From:[info]oona
Date:February 19th, 2010 - 11:54 am
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hahaha. That made me laugh. :)
From:[info]levsha
Date:February 17th, 2010 - 07:53 pm
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В милицию пошёл, значить. Крайняя степень падения, неожиданная даже для Воина Зла.
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From:[info]aculeata
Date:February 17th, 2010 - 07:56 pm
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Может, ошибка?
From:[info]levsha
Date:February 17th, 2010 - 07:58 pm
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Всяко бывает, конечно. Может и ошибка.
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From:[info]ded_mitya
Date:February 17th, 2010 - 08:12 pm
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Кто?
From:[info]levsha
Date:February 17th, 2010 - 08:16 pm
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Ну, Молчаливый.
From:[info]henryviii.livejournal.com
Date:February 18th, 2010 - 01:08 am
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это они детям открыли интеллигентные имена. а на самом деле их зовут Димон, Ссыкло, Шкилет и Мочало.
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From:[info]neilluzornypzdc
Date:February 18th, 2010 - 01:37 am
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У Молчаливого второе имя не Боб, случайно?
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From:[info]oona
Date:February 18th, 2010 - 04:16 am
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aculeata, I wanted to ask you your opinion about the entry concerning the children. It disturbed me, and I went reading around about it, and many people in the comments here and at Lj seemed, with my poor ability to understand, to be making excuses or not getting as upset about it as the writer of the entry or as it made me.
From:[info]adhal
Date:February 18th, 2010 - 06:07 am
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It's just a slice of typical Russia's everyday reality: repressiions, political assassinations, genocide, statesmen abusing their rights to prosper and feed upon th ehumiliated citizens (dont' forget that the more the humiliation, the more fun). You know, even the "Putin eats children"-meme is perfectly credible. Hell is on Earth. In several places. Russia is just one of them.
From:[info]adhal
Date:February 18th, 2010 - 06:13 am
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The sad thing is that almost everyone deserves what he gets. Try to swap the power-abusing statesman and the humiliated citizen and you'll see that nothing changes: the new statesman will rush to abuse his powers. In fact, the dream of almost any Russian man and woman — their image of "making themselves" — is to get to some (just any, doesn't matter, which in particular) kind of power and abuse, abuse, abuse it. There's no justice though, for not everyone humiliated deserves it and, more important, not everyone, who deserves to be punished, is actually punished.
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From:[info]oona
Date:February 18th, 2010 - 12:07 pm
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Children dun deserve anything bad.
From:[info]adhal
Date:February 18th, 2010 - 02:08 pm
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You know, most people in Russia are surprisingly deeply religious. As any true and good faithful Christian they believe, that children pay for the sins of their parents. For The Sin, actually. There's one sin in Russia — to stick out. But it is cardinal. So now, with these parents having stuck out, every good and faithful Christian will see to it that the children SUFFER A LOT, so that The Sin of their parents is punished properly. Given the background, that every Russian child-care facility is a Salaspils taken in the third power, with children tied to their beds and left to lie in the puddles of urine (with all the windows open) as a quite normal practice, we can imagine, what are these poor children are doomed to. And there is absolutely no possibility to change anything. Because everyone who try to stick out. And once they have stuck out they are just unpersons. Every door shut for them, every road barred, not a single hand will bid them aid. Once, for example, a "good" child-care facility is shown on TV, it is doomed. It has stuck out. It now must be punished.

That, and lots and lots of other things explain, why we worship Andrey Romanovich Chikatilo, Alexander Yurievich Pichushkin or Adolph Aloisovich Hitler as Angels of Mercy upon the fields of utter despair.

Failed on italicizing, sorry for double-posting.
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From:[info]oona
Date:February 18th, 2010 - 09:45 pm
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I am a lapsed Catholic myself, but the dogma I shun. Original sin is garbage, I'm sorry. No one is responsible for crap they didna do. My opinion. Of all creatures in the world, children should not have to suffer. I have only ever seen the programmes on the orphanages in Romania, which I found horrible beyond description. The link you gave me concerned Nazi camps. I wish to read about Russian orphanages if you can link me please.

Your lines concerning worshipping Andrey Romanovich Chikatilo, Alexander Yurievich Pichushkin or Adolph Aloisovich Hitler -- you are being facetious, are you not?
From:[info]adhal
Date:February 19th, 2010 - 09:14 am
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About Salaspils — maybe I was too obscure in expressing my thought, I mean that the child-care institutions are far worse than Salaspils, where children underwent medical experiments and were routinely exterminated.

About the links, try to understand my unwillingness to dig this theme. I can, though, give you a link to some of the autobiographical stories by a then-boy, Ruben David Gonzalez Gallego . It's in Russian, maybe you manage to find their English translation. Here is it on Amazon, though.

And about worship. Am facetious? Maybe a little bit. Only a little bit. In adding the "Aloisovich"-patronymic to Adolf Hitler's name.
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From:[info]oona
Date:February 19th, 2010 - 09:37 am
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I won't pursue the discussion then except to say that worshipping serial murderers and mass genocidal exterminators is warped, and when you say, 'And there is absolutely no possibility to change anything,' concerning the treatment of the children, I disagree. Human beings always have the capacity to effect change if they work together. But I have no wish to argue with you. Thank you for the links. I will read them.
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From:[info]aculeata
Date:February 18th, 2010 - 11:00 am
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[info]oona, yes, there may be all the reasons
to be upset. That is, if the children do exist (we're
on the Net, remember? the story could have been invented
and get reposted by people, though I think, in this case,
it's too much to hope for). The story could be read in
different ways, like one can imagine it might be a dull and
hungry childhood, with parents so involved in alleged
political activism that never thought to keep some books
for kids (and one doesn't have to buy them expensive).
In fact, political activists usually do get books for
their children. But either way, the kids would be far
worse off in an orphanage.

The problem is, there are no working social mechanisms
that can be initialized by getting upset on the Net.
That is because, in Dzerzhinsk, they wouldn't care.
Any real help would have started from getting to
Dzerzhinsk, physically, that is, if the kids are the
ones to receive the help.
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From:[info]oona
Date:February 18th, 2010 - 12:07 pm
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:( okay, thank you.
From:[info]tristes_tigres
Date:February 18th, 2010 - 09:17 pm
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The quoted article tells about social workers taking children away from parents because the parent's house is "too poor". Assuming the story is correct, it is an outrage, because orphanages in Russia is totally horrible places, almost worse than prisons (where a huge number of their graduates wind up, as experience shows).

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From:[info]oona
Date:February 18th, 2010 - 09:47 pm
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I dun understand this world. :(
From:[info]tristes_tigres
Date:February 18th, 2010 - 09:53 pm
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Russian state institutions give the impression they are of colonial administration run from Mordor, especially orphanages, insane asylums, nursing homes and prisons.
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From:[info]oona
Date:February 18th, 2010 - 10:09 pm
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In this country where I am living now, prisoners many times have it better than many others because they have media, solicitors, internet access, phones, no requirement to work, schooling, exercise equipment and their meals and medical care. I think many cycle in and out of the prisons when life outside becomes too difficult. At the hopsital, you wait for treatment whilst the prisoners see the doctor first.

In fact, life in prison is probably better than in the convalescent hospitals where they stick old people to die and hurry them along in doing so. Those places stink. There is no access to medical care--maybe once a month a doctor will come. The people who work there are hired off the street. The places are disgusting. I would not send a dog there.

The Child Protective Service where I live is overburdened, the employees are not competent to handle their caseloads and children fall through the cracks. About any orphanages I do not know, but they use foster care here, and it is also appalling with people taking the children because they come with a stipend for their care.
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From:[info]aculeata
Date:February 19th, 2010 - 12:14 am
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What you are saying here is not too depressive,
actually. Living conditions in prisons is an
important issue (in fact, in a country like ours,
not yours, it may be among most important ones).

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From:[info]oona
Date:February 19th, 2010 - 06:58 am
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No, this sounds horrible. The parents need a lawyer.
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From:[info]oona
Date:February 19th, 2010 - 07:28 am
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I am cussing to myself. I have seen the judicial process work here, and it sucks. It might be better than some other places, but it still sucks.
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From:[info]bigturtle
Date:February 19th, 2010 - 07:51 am
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In UK, the social workers are more in touch with common sense, I believe.
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From:[info]oona
Date:February 19th, 2010 - 08:01 am
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I dunno. You are familiar with Baby P?
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From:[info]bigturtle
Date:February 19th, 2010 - 08:21 am
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"Baby P" and Victoria Climbié stories are about negligence and incapacity of the social workers but not about the staffers doing terrible things by themselves.
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From:[info]oona
Date:February 19th, 2010 - 08:49 am
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When you can see what is happening to a baby like that and you are negligent, it's the same difference in my opinion (doctors, social workers, neighbours...), but I know what you mean.
From:(Anonymous)
Date:February 18th, 2010 - 07:17 am
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Валерия, меня всегда волновал такой вопрос. Вы как-то писали, что начинали с каббалы, но она для евреев, а не арийцев. Такой момент: имеет ли смысл национальная принадлежность человека, если в череде реинкарнаций он так или иначе периодически бывает и в теле индийской домохозяйки, и в теле учёного раввина в ультраортодоксальном квартале Иерусалима? И разве не универсальна для всех наций то учение, которого Вы придерживаетесь?
From:(Anonymous)
Date:February 21st, 2010 - 09:20 pm
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Смешно и бессмысленно все. Сколько человек из тех, кто разговаривает с акулеатой понимает, что вовсе она не с ними разговаривает, что все они - лишь ее инструменты для связи, материалы для экспериментов. И те, кому она раздает комплименты вроде "сама красивая" не подозревают, что, прыгай они с 15го этажа, она бы и не пошевельнулась их остановить, а, при случае, и подтолкнула бы. И сколько читателей тифарета любят его, не подозревая, что он правду про убийства... а он этим пользуется, растит их эго. В общем дело спасения утопающих-дело рук самих утопающих, падающего подтолкни и т. п.
From:(Anonymous)
Date:February 22nd, 2010 - 11:31 am
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это настолько банально, что можно было и не писать
From:(Anonymous)
Date:February 22nd, 2010 - 01:53 pm
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писать вообще не имеет смысла, надо действовать причем как можно скорее
From:(Anonymous)
Date:February 22nd, 2010 - 03:44 pm
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это вы о чем сейчас?