nancygold: Normalization of Homosexuality

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	(Анонимно) 2023-12-22 12:38 (ссылка)
	>there is no such thing as a failed man. There isn't. It's your invention. Gender dysphoric individuals didn't fail as their birth assigned gender, they just experience dysphoria. Maybe you are indeed just a crazy person, homosexual, heterosexual we won't know. (Ответить) (Ветвь дискуссии)

	nancygold 2023-12-22 12:51 (ссылка)
	Watch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6o769KbypRY he is right about everything. If you can't be a proper man, then just off yourself or troon out. (Ответить) (Уровень выше) (Ветвь дискуссии)

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2023-12-22 13:46 (ссылка)

If you can't be a proper man, why do you suddenly think that you can be a proper woman? Transes aren't proper women. They are transes.

To me it sounds as if you are subconsciously thinking "I'll postpone my suicide by pretending that becoming a post-op 'woman' will make me happier", i.e. creating some distant goal you prolong your life or something.

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6o769KbypRY

Meh. The needs of the high-tech capitalist societies, combined with the ideology of rights and freedom naturally made men what they are now. Unless there are special cultural implants that counteract that it won't change.

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nancygold
2023-12-22 13:53 (ссылка)

>If you can't be a proper man, why do you suddenly think that you can be a proper woman? Transes aren't proper women. They are transes.

That is called "expectation management."
I will never be a "real woman", but nobody will see me as a real man.
Therefore they will be no questions why I behave this and that way.
In addition, women are not expected to work hard and be strong.

>To me it sounds as if you are subconsciously thinking "I'll postpone my suicide by pretending that becoming a post-op 'woman' will make me happier", i.e. creating some distant goal you prolong your life or something.
Yes. Trooning out is a partial suicide, where only the problematic part dies. I.e. the part that can't handle testosterone and manly responsibilities. Basically a permit to be irresponsible and infantile.

>Meh. The needs of the high-tech capitalist societies, combined with the ideology of rights and freedom naturally made men what they are now. Unless there are special cultural implants that counteract that it won't change.

That is my issue. Because this modern society insists that I can still be a man, even with all my failures and infantile psychology.

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2023-12-22 14:18 (ссылка)

>Trooning out is a partial suicide

That's what I'm saying. It seems as if you aren't actually trans but repurposed 'trooning out' to prolong your life / feel better about yourself because of your high GIGACHAD-level standards of masculinity. Crazy.

>modern society insists that I can still be a man

But you reject this sissy modern western masculinity and say that your Russian imprinting with very strong men is the truth? Ok.

BTW In the non-modern societies (past and present) unwanted women literally died of hunger, and being an unmarried woman in her 40ies was one of the worst fates.

The supposed female traits you listed (irresponsible, infantile, etc) are a) a residue from the pre-technological times, where women were submissive due to the mere fact that men were stronger and there was no protection from the state, and the fact that women were basically a property that should act as proper property. This component is stronger in Russia because Russian culture is more backwards and Russian peasants were more oppressed. b)a very recent reinterpretation of the woman's role in the west(first half of the 20th century), when there was enough technology-caused wealth but the old stay-at-home cultural norms still remained, and women lost their purpose. Before that everyone just survived, be it at the farm/homestead, or be it at the factory. There was no place irresponsibility. Irresponsibility mauls you in a power loom. Irresponsibility (in a farm) makes your family die from hunger or illness.

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	nancygold 2023-12-22 14:21 (ссылка)
	I just dislike men and penises. So don't want to see one in the mirror. My level of masculinity is being a girl with a vagina. I see no reason for men to exist in any form or shape. (Ответить) (Уровень выше) (Ветвь дискуссии)

	(Анонимно) 2023-12-22 15:22 (ссылка)
	Путаешься в показаниях. Но это нормально для тебя. (Ответить) (Уровень выше)

	(Анонимно) 2023-12-22 14:16 (ссылка)
	Ты не вуман пока не обсыпешь мукой мишу (Ответить) (Ветвь дискуссии)

	(Анонимно) 2023-12-22 14:19 (ссылка)
	40ка летний детектед. (Ответить) (Уровень выше) (Ветвь дискуссии)

	(Анонимно) 2023-12-22 17:25 (ссылка)
	Мне кажется, обсыпание помогло Мише одуматься и орусофобиться (Ответить) (Уровень выше)