So if there were no laws against child porn in Russia...you would allow child abuse pics/video links on this site?

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TITS OR GTFO!

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sure, why not?
there are so many things which are much more abhorrent
Hollywood movies, for instance
politicians
lawyers
banks
mainstream media
christianity

I don't understand this child porn fixation
if you have mega-killer guys like Bush or Putin
just walking around, as if they did nothing wrong

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If we always look around for a subject that is even more abhorrent, we run the risk of having no moral standards at all.
There will always be someone or something worse. We can always say this thing (insert abhorrent activity) is terrible...but it is not as bad as what has happened from the likes of Bush/Christianity/Stalin.

The influence of mass media, politicians, and religion should not stop us from having our own sense of morality.

I feel you allow anything here in an attempt to demonstrate that the board has no limitations on freedom.
As if the oppression of the former USSR has been replaced by a freedom to do anything that one wills.
This is fine as long as no one (or sentient being) gets hurt.

Freedom to discuss is fine. We can talk openly here about,say, terrorism. Should we promote and encourage it...then clearly someone is likely to suffer. We have therefore gone beyond discussion (freedom of speech) and into the realms of promotion/coercion/encouragement.

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> The influence of mass media, politicians, and religion should not stop us from
> having our own sense of morality.

So-called "moral standards" that you care so much about ARE the product
of mass media and politicians (that's what both of these things are designed
for). Specifically, "animal rights", "religious awareness", etc., are the
product of constant yammering in media about, respectively, "animal right",
"religious awareness", etc. As far as 50 years ago nobody gave a damn about
animal rights, and people hunted and killed animals for food and entertainment
for centuries; but it's the last 50 years that seemed to have pulled
certain things inside out, precisely as mass media and technical means of
manipulating of people's minds rapidly progressed.

> We can talk openly here about,say, terrorism.

In fact, we cannot anymore. Tell a cute bomb anecdote to TSA in the airport.

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> we run the risk of having no moral standards at all.

"Moral standards" is one of the most evil, dangerous
and disgusting things around. The only thing
_more_ evil is people who like to enforce these standards
on everybody.

Such people are light years more evil than filippino paupers who
kill puppies for profit. I mean, all wars, all genocides, all cruel
things in history of civilizations were performed by this or that
evil guy who was just enforcing his own moral standards.

Hitler, Stalin, Pol-Pot, Torquemada, Muhammad,
they were all doing the same old thing, just "having moral
stanards". Evil, abhorrent, plain unacceptable.

All the best
Misha

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