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	tiphareth 2021-09-05 17:30 (ссылка)
	есличо, я прочел все книги Розова (страниц 20,000 этак) и некоторые несколько раз перечитывал (Ответить) (Уровень выше) (Ветвь дискуссии)

	(Анонимно) 2021-09-05 18:24 (ссылка)
	Ну это заметно, тащемта, мог бы и не говорить (Ответить) (Уровень выше)

	kaledin 2021-09-05 19:19 (ссылка)
	Ну так ты и китайской хуйни про боевые искусства не меньше прочел; это же не повод искать в ней смысл? (Ответить) (Уровень выше) (Ветвь дискуссии)

	tiphareth 2021-09-05 19:23 (ссылка)
	про боевые искусства не читал (Ответить) (Уровень выше) (Ветвь дискуссии)

	kaledin 2021-09-05 19:25 (ссылка)
	А как это переводится, не боевые искусства разве? (Ответить) (Уровень выше)

	kaledin 2021-09-05 19:30 (ссылка)
	Xianxia (genre) (仙侠小说), a subset of Chinese wuxia fiction (Ответить) (Уровень выше) (Ветвь дискуссии)

	tiphareth 2021-09-05 19:42 (ссылка)
	только там про мистику, не про martial arts (Ответить) (Уровень выше)

tiphareth
2021-09-05 20:00 (ссылка)

У меня оно сейчас открыто на этом месте

...Another monk laughed loudly. “Devil cult master is an eloquent and fluent speaker. Since you won’t respond if I talk to you about scriptures, I shall talk to you about the secular world.”

Excited, Qin Mu came over to that monk and said, “Great Monk, don’t speak first. Let me ask you, if everyone converted to Buddhism, didn’t reproduce, didn’t marry, had no children, wouldn’t the human race be extinct a hundred years later? What grudge do the humans have with you? Why do you want to eradicate the human race?”

The monk was stunned for a time, then said, “What I want to talk to you about is that your Heavenly Devil Cult does too much evil and the magic in your cult is evil and sinister. It uses live people to cultivate—”

Qin Mu didn’t give him time to say more. “What’s that compared to eradicating the human race?”

The monk stared at him with wide eyes, barely holding back his anger. “This is different from what I want to debate with you!”

“In that case, let us talk about this. When I met a hall master of Heavenly Saint Cult who used infants to cultivate, he was slain. Just now, I saw a monastery raising strange beasts at the foot of Mount Meru by mixing anesthetics with bloody meat to lie to the people. Where did the meat come from, did they take the lives of living creatures? I dealt with the scum in my cult, it’s your turn now. Go eradicate that monastery and kill all those monks.”

The monk was furious. “This is different from what I’m debating with you! I’m going to talk about the teachings with you! Our Great Thunderclap Monastery has tens of thousands of buddhist scriptures, each and every one of them is passed down from generation to generation, teaching people to be compassionate!”

Qin Mu said in astonishment, “If your own Buddhism hides dirt to conceal corruption instead of cleaning it up and the monks in the monasteries aren’t compassionate, how can you teach people to be compassionate? The foolish like to lecture others, but they can’t do it. Oh well, did you say teachings, I’ll talk to you about teachings. The path of the saint is none other than the one that can be used by common people. Can your dharma be used by common people every day? If they can’t use it, what’s the point of just having it recorded in a book? If it’s useless, won’t it be better to just burn it?”

“You devil!” The monk was really furious now and wanted to pounce over. “Preposterous arguments and harmful teachings, burning scriptures and eradicating buddha, your devil nature is indeed very serious. I’ll fight it out with you!”

“Hold it.” Qin Mu raised his hand and smiled. “You want to kill me, but let me ask you, do the buddhist scriptures allow you to take the life of a living creature?”

The monk stopped in his tracks and suppressed his anger. “Buddhist scriptures advise people to be compassionate, to not take the life of a living creature. However, against devils, even Buddha will be angered and subdue them!”

Qin Mu asked, “Grass, is it life?”

“Naturally,” the monk said angrily.

“Seedlings grow from grass and many of them turn into grains, which means that grains are also lives, so why do you eat them? You have been eating vegetarian and praying to Buddha, thinking about compassion, thinking about beauty, thinking about truth, but you don’t even know how many lives were lost in a mouthful of your food!” Qin Mu said. “The older you get, the more lives you have eaten. What face do you have to talk about buddha’s heart, to talk about compassion?”

He took out a flower seed from his taotie sack and held it in his hand. When he executed Earth Aeon Creation Technique, a soft shoot sprouted from the flower seedling and grew. Its roots broke out from their shell, and a spirit grass rose up in his hand. The plant was delicate, and a flower bud soon sprouted. It trembled gently, and a tender and lovely flower bloomed.

“Is it beautiful?” Qin Mu asked.

The monk was slightly infatuated and nodded in agreement. “Beautiful.”

Qin Mu brought the flower to the monk and said, “This flower is the grains you eat, they are its fruits. They are a beautiful life, yet how many of them have you eaten? When are you going to pay them back? If they had spirit and cultivated into a demon, would they cry about how you ate millions and millions of their race? Do you ever think about the damned souls of countless flowers and grasses surrounding you, waiting for you to pay with your life day and night?”

The monk held the beautiful flower in both of his hands as his expression became more and more defeated. He felt the beauty of the tender flower becoming sinister and terrifying, demanding his life. Suddenly, the monk sat down in a lotus position with tears rolling down his face. “I’ve eaten countless people from your race and my grave sins are hard to resolve! I’m willing to turn into a pile of ashes to nourish you!”

When he was finished with his words, the fire of karma lit up around his body and burned him cleanly in an instant. But even though the fire burned him completely, it didn’t harm the beautiful flower in the slightest. It landed softly onto the ashes, still tender and lovely.

“Ashes to ashes, dust to dust. Cultivating Buddhism still comes to naught at the end, only good enough to be used as fertilizer.”

Qin Mu bent over and gathered the ashes together to plant the flower seedling. “Monk, you have been useless all your life, but you are finally useful after you died. This flower will grow well, and it will bear many seedlings which will grow into even more flowers. You will be gratified if you know this in the netherworld.

“Even though the flower isn’t the common people, but by using your ashes as fertilizer, you have indeed achieved that goal of the everyday use of common people. Excellent, you and I are of the same path.”

He stood up and looked around. Even though he was a youth, he had the air of a cult master about him as he said unhurriedly, “Which great monk still wants to debate with me?”

The surroundings were silent.

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	(Анонимно) 2021-09-05 20:39 (ссылка)
	такое впечатление, что это всё пишет какой-то садков садков здорового человека, разумеется, не chip chinese drones (Ответить) (Уровень выше)

	(Анонимно) 2021-09-05 22:39 (ссылка)
	Миша, где ты их скачиваешь? (Ответить) (Уровень выше) (Ветвь дискуссии)

	tiphareth 2021-09-06 00:36 (ссылка)
	куча мест же их тысячи, однако (Ответить) (Уровень выше)

	(Анонимно) 2021-09-06 05:30 (ссылка)
	Что за перевод такой косолапый? (Ответить) (Уровень выше)

	(Анонимно) 2021-09-06 10:51 (ссылка)
	Всё таки вы передергиваете. Хоть это и мистицизм, но основное его использование, помимо становления an immortal being, это раздача пизды недругам. Mystical martial arts типа. (Ответить) (Уровень выше) (Ветвь дискуссии)

	kaledin 2021-09-06 18:40 (ссылка)
	Как в увлекательном романе "Пономарь" (только помноженное на китайскую тупорылость и отсутствие воображения). (Ответить) (Уровень выше)

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2021-09-06 05:25 (ссылка)

Дима, вы не понимаете просто. Это жанр такой, чем-то схож с Вахой по своему канону, и там в общем-то не про боевые искусства, там весь прикол в выстраивании мира, обусловленного системами, школами, отношениями внутри этих систем и школ и т.д, сами же БИ — чисто деталь повествования. Разумеется, не всем нравится, ну я думаю, вам и Вальтер Скотт ниоч, но по сути и то, и то — рыцарский роман, самостоятельный, мощный и независимый жанр с огромным количеством произведений, давно ставших классикой мировой литературы (Речные заводи, Путешествие на Запад).

Так что не пишете, пожалуйста, «хуйня», лучше пишите «я читаю другие жанры»

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	(Анонимно) 2021-09-06 09:49 (ссылка)
	Допизделись сцуко, что розоф это речные заводи 21-го века которые будут четать через 600 лет. Убейте мине. (Ответить) (Уровень выше) (Ветвь дискуссии)

	sometimes 2021-09-06 12:43 (ссылка)
	Переведут на английский же, там -тся и -ться нет (Ответить) (Уровень выше)

	(Анонимно) 2021-09-07 22:59 (ссылка)
	Причем тут твой говнорозов вообще? Просто в шары долбится не надо, тебе от этого делаеться только хуже. (Ответить) (Уровень выше)

	kaledin 2021-09-06 15:13 (ссылка)
	Я читаю другие жанры, потому что этот хуйня. Впрочем, другие тоже хуйня, велика ли разница. Не надо просто искать в хуйне смысл. (Ответить) (Уровень выше)

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