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Пишет nancygold ([info]nancygold)
@ 2025-09-30 22:43:00


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Entry tags:russia, transitioning, ukraine, ww3

The "Falsifiability" Cargo Cult
>it's basically an unfalsifiable theory, i.e. religious belief.

If we treat falsifiability as a rigid, mechanical rule, we fall into a kind of cargo cult science: we imitate the outward form of scientific rigor (asking “is it falsifiable?”) without acknowledging the deep logical and computational limits beneath it.

1. Falsifiability in science

Karl Popper’s falsifiability principle says:

A theory is scientific only if it can, in principle, be proven false by some conceivable observation or test.

That relies on the idea that for any statement we care about, we can decide whether the evidence rules it out or not.


2. The Halting Problem’s obstacle

The halting problem proves that there is no general algorithm that can decide, for every program and input, whether it halts.

  • If a “scientific theory” were formalized as a program that generates predictions, then testing falsifiability would mean checking whether the program ever produces a contradictory prediction.
  • But the halting problem shows we cannot, in general, determine if that contradiction will eventually appear or if the system will just keep running forever without resolving.
  • So falsifiability becomesundecidable in full generality: you can’t always know whether a theory is testable against experience.

3. Incompleteness theorem’s obstacle

Gödel’s incompleteness theorem shows that in any sufficiently powerful formal system:

  • There are true statements that cannot be proven within the system.
  • If a scientific theory is formalized mathematically, some consequences of it may be undecidable within the theory’s own framework.

That means:

  • Even if a counterexample to the theory exists in reality, the system may not be able to prove that the counterexample is a contradiction.
  • So some theories cannot be fully falsified by logic alone — the tools to demonstrate inconsistency are inherently limited.

4. Why both together matter

  • Halting problem: blocks the computational side — we cannot always tell whether a testable contradiction will ever arise.
  • Incompleteness theorem: blocks the logical side — even if a contradiction exists, we might never be able to prove it.

Thus, the method of falsifiability, while powerful in practice, cannot serve as an absolute, universal criterion. In principle, there exist theories or systems of rules that are either:

  1. Undecidable (we can’t tell if they’ll ever fail), or
  2. Incomplete (failures exist but cannot be demonstrated within the system).

This undermines the dream of a fully mechanical or formal way of demarcating “scientific” theories by falsifiability.



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2025-09-30 23:14 (ссылка)
Can we falsify that the russian faggot Nikita Sadkov is an anal whore slurping niggers' dicks like mad?
Can we even _DENY_ that gettin' a big black cock up the 40 yo bald russian faggot makes him a nazi woman?
Hell no, I say ya bitches!
Nancy, ride on!

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2025-09-30 23:41 (ссылка)
>Углядел halting problem and undecidability и необходимость в "fully mechanical or formal way" в разрешении вопроса о принадлежности женщин несоответсвующих суверенному персональному садковскому стандарту женственности к "power lesbians" (aka transmascs)

Усиленно кручу пальцем у виска, потому что ты ебобо.

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2025-09-30 23:55 (ссылка)
>ты ебобо.

ну т.е. и ebobo, и low effort chatgpt paster одновременно.

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2025-10-01 02:01 (ссылка)
lol stupid crap

“it can, in principle, be proven false “

is not the same as

“testing falsifiability would mean checking whether the program ever produces a contradictory prediction”

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[info]nancygold
2025-10-01 10:21 (ссылка)
>govna ne el, ne dokazano!!!

ok

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2025-10-01 03:10 (ссылка)
ЮРКА ЗЫКОВ КРАСИТ ВОЛОСЫ!!! ХА-ХА-ХА!! )))

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2025-10-01 10:43 (ссылка)
пишут shany из россии
такая молодая а уже россиянка
не повезло девочке

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2025-10-01 11:41 (ссылка)
I came to the conclusion that you are ruining your mental health by talking to right wing anons on imageboards and ljr. Your exacting standards on "passing" that reflect anti-transgender anon tastes aren't making you feel better about yourself for example. You even internalized "I will never be a woman". Likely you are doing it wrong, you are being selfish wrong. A selfish person would choose a belief system, narrative and communities/environment in accordance to their state and perspectives.

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[info]nancygold
2025-10-01 14:04 (ссылка)
Right wingers are 1000x times saner than the left wingers.
Just because right wingers limit their attention to their race and nation, instead of entire world.
So they are inherently less dangerous.

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2025-10-01 14:21 (ссылка)
>So they are inherently less dangerous.

Not if they suddenly get the idea that there isn't enough lebensraum for them.

>Right wingers are 1000x times saner than the left wingers.

You are deflecting. I said internalizing right wing standards isn't good for your mental health.

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[info]nancygold
2025-10-01 14:39 (ссылка)
>Not if they suddenly get the idea that there isn't enough lebensraum for them.

Then we will have a nice world war, reducing population.
Less dumbfucks -> less CO2 emission.
And maybe a Holocaust or two.
Great Thumberg will be happy.


>You are deflecting. I said internalizing right wing standards isn't good for your mental health.

Right wingers from Daily Stormer always told me "it is good thing kikes like you castrate themselves", while left wingers told me to be bodypositive. Guess whom I see as friends?

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2025-10-01 15:08 (ссылка)
So nice of you volunteering to be the first civilian casualty of the next world war.

>castrate themselves", while left wingers told me to be bodypositive

These are different dimensions. You can castrate yourself, and still be body positive. Left wing narratives don't oppose medical transitioning, it's right wing pressures to cut taxes/expenses and their general opposition to transgenderism that are the main source of medical transition bureaucratization, and therefore cope-like adaptation narratives in the LGBTQ communities.

>Right wingers from Daily Stormer

These are not right wingers. These are extreme (far) right wingers. Regular right wingers, like the conservatives in the US, or even in the EU aren't your friends. They think you should remain closeted and behave like a normie.

>kikes

You aren't even jewish. Just some admixture.

...

btw can you even do voice feminization training in the Netherlands without knowing Dutch? Would be pretty funny if it'll be the issue.

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[info]nancygold
2025-10-01 17:15 (ссылка)
>Left wing narratives don't oppose medical transitioning

Actually they do in a multitude of ways,
1. Insisting on medical transitioning to pass as a woman you support gender binary and the "unrealistic" female beauty standards.
2. You should instead fight for the society to accept you as you were born (even if was born as a subhuman like nigger).
3. The money spent on plastic surgeries can be better on other causes, like donating to Hamas or BLM leadership.
4. Your flight to Thailand to get surgeries supports global warming.
5. No. You can't use AI to make yourself smarter and skilled, because AI steals from art niggers.

that and many more such arguments I heard from the left.

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2025-10-01 17:44 (ссылка)
This isn't left wing, this is extreme (far) left.

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[info]nancygold
2025-10-01 18:07 (ссылка)
So entire Reddit and the most transgenders are extreme far left?

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2025-10-01 18:10 (ссылка)
Likely. Certainly the thematic subs regularly succumb to leftist mod entryism.

Mainstream subs aren't representative of general population either, these are also captured by special interests.

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[info]nancygold
2025-10-01 20:35 (ссылка)
Mainstream = representative. Non mainstream = fringe = statistical noise

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2025-10-01 20:42 (ссылка)
Mainstream subs aren't captured by what you think. /r/worldnews for example has a pro-israeli and strict pro-ukrainian bias.

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2025-10-01 18:08 (ссылка)
It's as if you can exist as a biological specimen only at the extreme tips of the political horseshoe.

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[info]nancygold
2025-10-01 17:18 (ссылка)
>btw can you even do voice feminization training in the Netherlands without knowing Dutch? Would be pretty funny if it'll be the issue

I don't believe in training and coping.
I believe in surgeries and medical interventions.
Only lefties pray jeezus to cure their cancer.

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2025-10-01 17:47 (ссылка)
You still need training even with surgery. Your voice was high pitched since forever, but was it faminine?

>Only lefties pray jeezus to cure their cancer.

Literally the regular right are the people force Bejesus on all occasions.

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[info]nancygold
2025-10-01 18:08 (ссылка)
High pitched male != high pitched female. You still need surgery.

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2025-10-01 17:36 (ссылка)
You will never be a woman.

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