That's indisputable, but I want from you something different. Howd'ya know these societies have any kind of real working secret knowledge of nature entirely unknown to public? I mean let's say they have some alchemical grimoires or something similar. Are you sure that at least some of them are really capable to conduct their Magnum Opus and come all the way down to rubedo with those pieces of waste paper (hi, Myrzin-Pituknovsky)?

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The hard question 'bout real miracles
To know for sure, one should not sit on this blog, but go and torture some Duke of Savoy (representative of the old European aristocracy) (http://lj.rossia.org/users/rex_weblen/212899.html?thread=3649699#t3649699).
But something can be said.
In the past, it may've been useless alchemical experiments.
Now it seems to me that it's common for these people to mix science and occult aspirations.
I.e. they can achieve occult goals (immortality, for example) by completely scientific methods. I.e. for such people science is an application to occultism as a philosophy.

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Well you chose poorly to answer in this particular way. Bye!

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