# Но такие кружки, наверное были во все странны и все времена

Not everywhere and not among everybody.
There aren't such circles among indigenous people, i think.
Such groups R a reaction to disenchantment prosess. The indigenous people had a full order with sacredness, psychodaelic mushrooms and plants, as well as shamanistic rites and had metaphysical answers about everything. I.e. their lives (according to Mircha Eliade) had sacred (as well as psychedelic) fullness. 'Yuzhenskie' and beatnicks were the children of modernity: big monstorous cities (Moscow in "Yuzhinskie" case), loud streets, big factories, starting already in that time ecological problems and so on.
And the main thing: abscence of sacred and psychedelic fillness of everyday life, among common people (metaphysical thirsty, designate it so). That is, they were modern people with reborned indigenous souls (recall Karl-Gustav Jung and his "collective unconscious"). The ways, of course, were different: beatnicks were kinda reborned orgistic near east sacred pole (recall ancient fertile cults,( lunar way)), "Yzhinskie"were kinda reborned hyperborean (north) pole (vikings, ancient heros (from here the reading of Julius Evola, for example), aspirations of magnificient empires, brave kings and beatiful dames; (solar way, designate it so)).

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А ваш английский это реакция на что? Читать же больно, все ругаются, но вы продолжаете нести свой крест в лучших традициях христианских мучеников

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Prolonged in a time the kidding reaction to the culturocide idea...
One of the main ideas here is a culturocide idea.
But nobody (except incompareable Nancy Sadkov) wants to draw upon a principe: "practice what you preach".
Plus, to improve my english skills.
Btw, i did not learn english at scholl at all (there was german) never exchanged by massages in english with anybody till this time, and learned it when i was about 18 years old (i.e. many times ago) by one and a half english textbook.

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Remembered: i also read Ray Bradbury in original (but also many times ago).

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А, вы тоже из этих

2. Русский гражданский алфавит в его истории является алфавитом самодержавного гнета, миссионерской пропаганды, великорусского национал-шовинизма, что в особенности проявляется в руссификаторской роли этого алфавита по отношению к нац. меньшинствам бывшей Российской Империи (записка генерала Кауфмана и др. документы). В то же время этот алфавит является орудием пропаганды русского империализма за рубежом (славянофильство, борьба за проливы).

3. Русский алфавит и после его частичной реформы 1917 года, целью которой было превратить орудие классовой письменности в орудие массовой грамотности, продолжает оставаться алфавитом национал-буржуазной великорусской идеологии. Это особенно ясно сказывается в стремлении национальностей, пользовавшихся русской графикой, перейти на латинскую графику (осетины, абхазы, движение у коми и т. д.), как на графику, идеологически более нейтральную и международную.
https://lj.rossia.org/users/fleam/3603.html

>never exchanged by massages in english with anybody till this time
вы все-таки поаккуратней со словами, а то пацаны не поймут.

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No, i specially highlighted the word "kidding" in bold.

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а как у тебя с немецким, тоже пословно переводишь с русского?

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Don't speak and write at all

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don't speak yourself

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Ich versuche mein Deutsch zu verbessern

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>Not everywhere and not among everybody.

I also don't lik that claim of mine.

>"Yzhinskie"were kinda reborned hyperborean (north) pole (vikings, ancient heros (from here the reading of Julius Evola, for example), aspirations of magnificient empires, brave kings and beatiful dames; (solar way, designate it so)).

I don't agree with that. This is sort of "Orientation North" stuff by Gaidar Jemal. Ant wos published only in 80s And Mamleev left for states in 1974. In in classic Yzhinskij in Mamleev's room it was basicly same dinking and partying, while reading some poetry, discussing literature and philosophy. I don;t see here any "vikingds" or "ancient heroes".

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