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Пишет Misha Verbitsky ([info]tiphareth)
@ 2018-05-03 18:27:00


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Entry tags:islam, smeshnoe, usa

культурный расизм, нетолерантность и мизогиния!
Отлично
http://www1.cbn.com/cbnnews/us/2018/april/maine-democrats-refuse-to-pass-law-forbidding-barbaric-practice-on-little-girls
в штате Мэн феминистки блокируют законодательство
по борьбе с женским обрезанием.

"What we should not be doing is counting potential victims

at-risk by counting the number of Somali, Egyptian and
Gideon females in immigrant families in Maine, not unless
we are willing to face the racism in that calculation and
the racism and misogyny entrenched in so many of us."

Reckitt ... continued with the racism attack,
asking the house members how much "collateral racism" they
are willing to risk to end FGM. "Maine has too much at
stake to be distracted by ideology-driven laws that are
bad and misguided policy."

Потому что запрещать женское обрезание
(которому в некоторых районах Портланда, Мэн
подвергается до четверти девочек, сообщают врачи)
это культурный расизм, нетолерантность
и мизогиния.

Отчасти, конечно, так и есть, потому что
закон продвигают республиканцы, которые всех
этих мюслей видали в гробу и в белых тапочках,
а занимаются чисто конкретно анти-муслимской
пропагандой. Но все равно получилось смешно.

Привет



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[info]tiphareth
2018-05-04 16:50 (ссылка)
насчет женского обрезания, есть вполне серьезные мусульманские религиозные тексты
(арабские, средневековые) которые его предписывают
https://wikiislam.net/wiki/Qur%27an,_Hadith_and_Scholars:Female_Genital_Mutilation#Fuqaha.E2.80.99_of_Islam_are_agreed_that_it_is_prescribed.2C_not_an_inherited_custom
сейчас доминирует теория мужское обрезание обязательно, женское желательно


Circumcision is not an inherited custom as some people claim, rather it is prescribed in Islam and the scholars are unanimously agreed that it is prescribed. Not a single Muslim scholar – as far as we know – has said that circumcision is not prescribed.

Their evidence is to be found in the saheeh ahaadeeth of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), which prove that it is prescribed, for example:

1-

The hadeeth narrated by al-Bukhaari (5889) and Muslim (257) from Abu Hurayrah (may Allaah be pleased with him), that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: "The fitrah is five things – or five things are part of the fitrah – circumcision, shaving the pubes, cutting the nails, plucking the armpit hairs, and trimming the moustache."

This hadeeth includes circumcision of both males and females.

2-

Muslim (349) narrated that ‘Aa’ishah (may Allaah be pleased with her) said: The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “When a man sits between the four parts (arms and legs of his wife) and the two circumcised parts meet, then ghusl is obligatory.”

The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) mentioned the two circumcised parts, i.e., the circumcised part of the husband and the circumcised part of the wife, which indicates that a woman may be circumcised just like a man.

3-

Abu Dawood (5271) narrated from Umm ‘Atiyyah al-Ansaariyyah that a woman used to do circumcisions in Madeenah and the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said to her: “Do not go to the extreme in cutting; that is better for the woman and more liked by the husband.” But the scholars differed concerning this hadeeth. Some of them classed it as da’eef (weak) and others classed it as saheeh. It was classed as saheeh by al-Albaani in Saheeh Abi Dawood. The fact that circumcision for women is prescribed in Islam is confirmed by the ahaadeeth quoted above, not by this disputed hadeeth. But the scholars differed concerning the ruling, and there are three opinions:

1 –

That it is obligatory for both males and females. This is the view of the Shaafa’is and Hanbalis, and is the view favoured by al-Qaadi Abu Bakr ibn al-‘Arabi among the Maalikis (may Allaah have mercy on them all).

Al-Nawawi (may Allaah have mercy on him) said in al-Majmoo’ (1/367): "Circumcision is obligatory for both men and women in our view. This is the view of many of the salaf, as was narrated by al-Khattaabi. Among those who regarded it as obligatory is Ahmad… it is the correct view that is well known and was stated by al-Shaafa’i (may Allaah have mercy on him), and the majority stated definitively that it is obligatory for both men and women."

See Fath al-Baari, 10/340; Kishshaaf al-Qinaa’, 1/80

2 –

That circumcision is Sunnah for both males and females. This is the view of the Hanafis and Maalikis, and was narrated in one report from Ahmad. Ibn ‘Aabideen al-Hanafi (may Allaah have mercy on him) said in his Haashiyah (6/751): "In Kitaab al-Tahaarah of al-Siraaj al-Wahhaaj it says: Know that circumcision is Sunnah in our view – i.e., according to the Hanafis – for men and for women."

See: Mawaahib al-Jaleel, 3/259

3 –

That circumcision is obligatory for men and is good and mustahabb for women. This is the third view of Imam Ahmad, and it is the view of some Maalikis such as Sahnoon. This view was also favoured by al-Muwaffaq ibn Qudaamah in al-Mughni.

See: al-Tamheed, 21/60; al-Mughni, 1/63

It says in Fataawa al-Lajnah al-Daa’imah (5/223):

"Circumcision is one of the Sunnahs of the fitrah, and it is for both males and females, except that is it obligatory for males and Sunnah and good in the case of women."

Thus it is clear that the fuqaha’ of Islam are agreed that circumcision is prescribed for both males and females, and in fact the majority of them are of the view that it is obligatory for both. No one said that it is not prescribed or that it is makrooh or haraam.


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[info]kaledin
2018-05-04 21:41 (ссылка)
>есть вполне серьезные мусульманские религиозные тексты (арабские, средневековые) которые его предписывают

Разумеется; и столько же, которые не предписывают. Мохаммад завещал своим последователям разделиться на 73 секты, они и разделились.

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