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Pretiosa Margarita Novella: Алхимия и Революция [Apr. 15th, 2024|09:06 pm]
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From:[info]zhitel_vershin
Date:April 16th, 2024 - 10:16 am
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According to the totality of indirect evidence accumulated over the long history of mankind. In addition, when the main ways of achieving and retaining power are exhausted, it's a common way to turn to occult knowledgze (these r clearly not the books that r so easy to download on the web and write about it in a blog ...).
From:(Anonymous)
Date:April 16th, 2024 - 02:45 pm
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>totality of indirect evidence

It's all just mere words. Can you name anything more tangible?
From:[info]zhitel_vershin
Date:April 16th, 2024 - 04:57 pm
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Well masons really exist (there's a masonic temple in the Canaries, which you can see and even touch).

Bohemian Grove is quite an existing location, from where very strange photos and video-materials were leaked. And Stanley Kubrick, after he shot 'Eyes Wide Shut', somehow left our world quickly. And Gel'ich, who had party with very cool dudes from the world of secret societies, will not lie 'bout it (in the sense that he wrote a lot 'bout the occultism of European elites).
From:(Anonymous)
Date:April 16th, 2024 - 05:06 pm
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Then how 'xactly can ya know fo sho that these folks are not just some elitist societies of high ranked sodomites/pedophiles in fancy clothes doin' weird practices?
From:[info]zhitel_vershin
Date:April 16th, 2024 - 05:31 pm
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From what I've read, Italy is an example. It's widely known that p2 was a state within a state. Here's a prime example of how that can exist.
That the world of secret societies is real.
As for paedophilia, it's a different matter: convenient kompromat on each other, so that they don't say too much.
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P2 was sometimes referred to as a "state within a state"[9] or a "shadow government".[10] The lodge had among its members prominent journalists, members of the Italian parliament, industrialists, and senior Italian military officers —including Silvio Berlusconi, who later became Prime Minister of Italy; the House of Savoy pretender to the Italian throne Prince Victor Emmanuel;[11] and the heads of all three Italian foreign intelligence services (at the time SISDE, SISMI, and CESIS). When searching Gelli's villa in 1982, police found a document which he had entitled "Plan for Democratic Rebirth", which called for a coup d'etat, the consolidation of the media, the suppression of Italian labor unions, and the rewriting of the Italian constitution.[12]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda_Due
From:(Anonymous)
Date:April 16th, 2024 - 06:39 pm
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That's indisputable, but I want from you something different. Howd'ya know these societies have any kind of real working secret knowledge of nature entirely unknown to public? I mean let's say they have some alchemical grimoires or something similar. Are you sure that at least some of them are really capable to conduct their Magnum Opus and come all the way down to rubedo with those pieces of waste paper (hi, Myrzin-Pituknovsky)?
From:[info]zhitel_vershin
Date:April 16th, 2024 - 07:04 pm
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The hard question 'bout real miracles
To know for sure, one should not sit on this blog, but go and torture some Duke of Savoy (representative of the old European aristocracy) (http://lj.rossia.org/users/rex_weblen/212899.html?thread=3649699#t3649699).
But something can be said.
In the past, it may've been useless alchemical experiments.
Now it seems to me that it's common for these people to mix science and occult aspirations.
I.e. they can achieve occult goals (immortality, for example) by completely scientific methods. I.e. for such people science is an application to occultism as a philosophy.
From:(Anonymous)
Date:April 16th, 2024 - 07:19 pm
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Well you chose poorly to answer in this particular way. Bye!
From:(Anonymous)
Date:April 16th, 2024 - 07:35 pm
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Зеленский рассказал о тайном влиянии России на весь мир

Президент Украины Владимир Зеленский заявил, что российское тайное политическое влияние проникло не только в Конгресс США, но и в политические системы во всем мире. Слова украинского лидера передает Politico.
https://lenta.ru/news/2024/04/10/zelenskiy-rasskazal-o-taynom-vliyanii-rossii-na-ves-mir/
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From:[info]rex_weblen
Date:April 16th, 2024 - 05:39 pm
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All these books are not secret!

And in fact you can read them anytime you wish.

But the secret knowledge are sealed not by gate, but by hermeutic codes, and keys to these codes are what is so hard to get.

Probably all this occult can be in plain sight in popular Hollywood movies and books like Harry Pottert. But without the keys it is still unacessible by profane public.
From:[info]zhitel_vershin
Date:April 16th, 2024 - 06:13 pm
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Maybe, but I'm afraid with that method we'll so step down into a complete schizo-posmodern, drug-like psychosis. Btw, there're a lot of YouTube channels on the Internet devoted to finding secret ciphers in cartoons and Soviet cinema and the early works of Victor Tsoi. I think the real occult is aristocratic and very rich families passing on secret knowledge in the form of ancient books in Latin and through initiation rites. Perhaps René Guénon more or less had a flair for it.
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From:[info]rex_weblen
Date:April 16th, 2024 - 06:37 pm
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Ancient books can be stolen and revieled.

And nobody would believe a person who claims that there are secret messages in popular catoons and songs.
From:(Anonymous)
Date:April 17th, 2024 - 01:56 am
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Чё за олхимию думаеш